This is fantastic news. They also said they will go to court over if WoTC try to “deauthorise” OGL 1.0a which is just epic.

Edit: The site went down lmao. Epic stuff.

Edit: BTW, Paizo is the company that also recognised their Union without requiring it to go to vote or hiring anti-union shitheads.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Edit - BTW, looks like Matt Colville will not be a part of this.

      I think that's for the best.

      I'm happy about what Paizo is doing, but it would only take one asshole executive to make Paizo do a WOTC someday, so ecosystem diversity is a good thing.

      • LiberalSocialist [any,they/them]
        hexagon
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        1 year ago

        Yeah but that’s a complete misunderstanding of what Paizo is doing. The Open RPG Creative (ORC) License is not something Paizo can pull a WOTC on because Paizo doesn’t own it.

        They’re footing the bill for the thing to be created by a proper law firm in conjunction with multiple other rpg makers that will be held by a non-profit agency. It is also specifically made to be irrevocable and perpetual. It is also systems agnostic - because, again, the goal isn’t to create an OGL for Pathfinder, but an ORC that can provide a systematic way for all rpgs to be opened up to fans and other creators.

        Either Colville doesn’t understand this, which is unlikely, or he doesn’t want to be a part of the open rpg movement.

        Add in the silence from Crit Role and Dimension 20, it seems like all these big actual play creators and communities have no interest in open rpg or any desire to express solidarity with 3PP.

        • Ithorian [comrade/them, he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Crit Role is deep in bed with wizards isn't it? Like I know they have their own world going but I thought it was in a partnership with WotC.

            • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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              1 year ago

              The new OGL isn't officially out yet, and Critical Role will almost certainly be offered a better, separate licensing agreement, which they may or may not accept. New OGL will likely be used as a threat to increase their bargaining power for agreements that are actually legally enforceable.

              • LiberalSocialist [any,they/them]
                hexagon
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                1 year ago

                The OGL got leaked because it was shared with multiple companies and some of them said nah. Given the favourable terms kickstarter has in it already, it’s a given they that kickstarter got a deal for that. This isn’t just some first draft circulating among some employees. This was probably literally the official one, or very close to it.

                CR did probably get a better deal. Which is why they’re quiet. They don’t want to seem like allies of WOTC even if that’s what they are.

            • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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              edit-2
              1 year ago

              Matt Mercer did like a tweet saying that old OGL is good. I suspect that they have their own legal stuff as WotC has published them before and DnD Beyond does sponsor them. They also have been publishing their own books and seem to have been trying to distance themselves from DnD lore. I suspect it is just some nasty behind the scenes stuff. I won't be surprised either way.

        • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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          1 year ago

          It hasn't even been 24 hours since they announced this and you're accusing a bunch of people of being opposed to open gaming by not having responded yet. I think you're being a bit premature.

          • LiberalSocialist [any,they/them]
            hexagon
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            1 year ago

            While Paizo’s announcement is new, CR has been silent about the new OGL for way too long for it to be a mistake or a slip up or whatever. They probably are literally barred from speaking about it, which means they signed some form of NDA, either the one in the OGL or from some other deal. In either case, this means they are allied with WOTC and not the rest of the community.

            • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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              1 year ago

              Tbh I do find it likely that they'll sign with Wizards but it's not a forgone conclusion. I think you're being Twitter-brained about this. CR may want to wait and see what they're offered before they make a decision, or be waiting to see which way the wind is blowing, or have internal disagreements about how to proceed. They had developed a working relationship with Wizards long before this came out and it's reasonable that they don't want to throw that out at the drop of the hat. But that doesn't mean their response is already decided.