Then there is the sequel where the poo people fight back, but they do it in the wrong and bad way which really enforces why we kept them as poo people in the first place! Otherwise it upsets the natural hierarchy and don't you know they just create their own hierarchy that is even worse because it doesn't even acknowledge special people?
Edit: that also makes it praised for it's 'realism'.
There are a couple other book series like that too, I can't be bothered to remember them, but they are definitely like that. One literally has the common side called 'the revolution', and basically makes the arguement that edgy magical libertarians are the only force that can save or doom humanity and the environment.
Yeah, the butcher bit was incredibly unnecessary, you could have just had them have the same economic failures that Dany was facing and had them fall that way. There was really no need to indulge in the 'ignorant authoritarian peasant warlord' fantasy.
In Gambo, the status quo was maintained and the naive attempt to improve society somewhat was thwarted, allowing the same bunch of hereditary sociopaths to regain and maintain control over a relatively stable ongoing regime, and the "no plot armor no favored characters" ego insert of the author got to be a special boy after all and wander off with all the cool mysterious nomad people. Also he had (CW: sexual violence and general GRRM creepiness)
spoiler
le sexy sex with the le crazy sexual violence victim that went too far then killed her
:so-true:
Disclaimer: Maybe "Winds of Winter" would have gone differently if the author could be bothered to finish it instead of being high on his own farts, but judging by how much more :libertarian-alert: there is in the books I don't think it'd be less ideologically terrible than the show's ending.
The naive attempt to improve society somewhat involves conquering an entire city, changing it's laws inmediately, and then leaving inmediately. Maybe i'm misremembering but Martin said that plotline was inspired by the US involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan.
It's very convenient that the only attempt to change the status quo was presented as that bad to imply the status quo is preferable by default. :liberalism:
There are more examples of good attempts at changing the status quo, but go on.
Damn, i wonder why the story about rich bastards destroying entire kingdoms for their own benefit doesn't show said bastards doing jolly stuff for the masses lr abolishing the status quo that benefits them.
Of all the themes I've seen in fiction, I think rape and slavery have two of the worst ratios of "creators putting these in their stories" to "creators using these in a responsible and mature manner."
Then there is the sequel where the poo people fight back, but they do it in the wrong and bad way which really enforces why we kept them as poo people in the first place! Otherwise it upsets the natural hierarchy and don't you know they just create their own hierarchy that is even worse because it doesn't even acknowledge special people?
Edit: that also makes it praised for it's 'realism'.
Ah, I see you too are familiar with Legend of Korra
There are a couple other book series like that too, I can't be bothered to remember them, but they are definitely like that. One literally has the common side called 'the revolution', and basically makes the arguement that edgy magical libertarians are the only force that can save or doom humanity and the environment.
That's both Korra and Gambo, among other things. :disgost:
Yeah, the butcher bit was incredibly unnecessary, you could have just had them have the same economic failures that Dany was facing and had them fall that way. There was really no need to indulge in the 'ignorant authoritarian peasant warlord' fantasy.
In Gambo, the status quo was maintained and the naive attempt to improve society somewhat was thwarted, allowing the same bunch of hereditary sociopaths to regain and maintain control over a relatively stable ongoing regime, and the "no plot armor no favored characters" ego insert of the author got to be a special boy after all and wander off with all the cool mysterious nomad people. Also he had (CW: sexual violence and general GRRM creepiness)
spoiler
le sexy sex with the le crazy sexual violence victim that went too far then killed her
:so-true:
Disclaimer: Maybe "Winds of Winter" would have gone differently if the author could be bothered to finish it instead of being high on his own farts, but judging by how much more :libertarian-alert: there is in the books I don't think it'd be less ideologically terrible than the show's ending.
Hey now not all of them survived.
The Tyrells who gave alms to the poor were wiped out in the show :)
The naive attempt to improve society somewhat involves conquering an entire city, changing it's laws inmediately, and then leaving inmediately. Maybe i'm misremembering but Martin said that plotline was inspired by the US involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan.
It's very convenient that the only attempt to change the status quo was presented as that bad to imply the status quo is preferable by default. :liberalism:
There are more examples of good attempts at changing the status quo, but go on.
Damn, i wonder why the story about rich bastards destroying entire kingdoms for their own benefit doesn't show said bastards doing jolly stuff for the masses lr abolishing the status quo that benefits them.
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Of all the themes I've seen in fiction, I think rape and slavery have two of the worst ratios of "creators putting these in their stories" to "creators using these in a responsible and mature manner."
It turns out what they really needed all along was a nicer monarch