I know it was originally a spin off of the chapotraphouse subreddit but I don't know much else. Is it it still affiliated with the podcast? How has it grown etc? Why was the subreddit closed etc.
Give me the lore, baby
I know it was originally a spin off of the chapotraphouse subreddit but I don't know much else. Is it it still affiliated with the podcast? How has it grown etc? Why was the subreddit closed etc.
Give me the lore, baby
Can anyone give me a quick non-biased rundown on the 'vegan struggle session'?
Without going too deep down the rabbithole (because doing so risks re-igniting the whole thing), vegans basically said standard vegan type things about how eating meat is morally indefensible, and people who ate meat got very angry about it, and people on both sides engaged in argumentative tactics that were bad and offensive and got the other side very angry. It lasted like several days I think, across several threads, and led to a lot of mods, admins, and even devs burning out on this site, and even now there are still a lot of hard feelings about it on both sides.
Edit: I should probably clarify that while vegan struggle sessions had always been a thing here and there, this one was precipitated by an attempt to lifeboat the VeganCircleJerk subreddit, which was full of users who were very outspoken about veganism, often in ways that even many vegans would find abrasive.
Thank you!
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I assume you're referring to TC69 and Feinberg's Trans Liberation: Beyond Pink or Blue. That happened prior to the Vegan Struggle Session.
Also, the people who complained about being asked to read it were losers.
to add to this, Beyond Pink or Blue is a very easy read, it isn't like Capital where you have to wrestle with extreme dryness, over-explanation, 1800s writing style, etc.
it's also really fucking short lol
It's a very worthwhile read.
yes to both
I thought so and while I wasn't a total goober on trans issues it gave me more understanding that helped me improve further. Plus it was just a genuinely interesting read.
It's mostly composed of speeches too, so it makes a great audiobook
Links here
They weren’t asked, they were told. In those days most posters hadn’t even read the communist manifesto.
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Hence why people antagonized the mod who was demanding people read theory. They responded by starting a struggle/ban session over whether that dismissive attitude was bigoted.
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It was spam at one point but on lol
I really don't think that thread and its followup were as bad as all that.
A lot of stuff was purged from those threads, it was a weird long running thing that antagonized people.
Judging by the vibe of this thread alone I can tell that you seem to be one of the few that got antagonized by it.. Personally I valued TC69 posts a lot. Also your 4day old account is tempting me a lot to ask you to post hog
I mean TC69 was absolutely very polarizing, mods still remove posts for 'TC69 slander' which may make it seem less polarizing but here leadership absolutely was.
Funny you should say that. When I went looking for the thread, by searching "leslie feinberg trans liberation" and sorting from oldest to newest, I saw several attempts by TC69 to get people to read it, always very nicely, and pretty much invariably getting very few people on board. Then she made that thread I linked, and dozens of people read it. So tell me, from her perspective, why wouldn't she view the whole thing as a success?
Your argument reminds me an awful lot of the people MLK was responding to in his Letter From Birmingham Jail.
Lol what, did you just accuse of me of being a white moderate? TC69 or whatever was…intense. I just lurk now so I don’t know what happened to them
that occurred after chapochat became hexbear, before that there was a trans struggle session.
I remember it all started because some vegans shitposted in c/food about how to cook a dog and some people took the posts too seriously until it affected all the site
It was specifically that they kept posting variations of it until it got a rise out of people. That's also a lot of why indigenous practices became such a touchstone in the fight. Because someone finally replied to those posts that their culture actually did traditionally eat dogs and that was the spark that caught.
Fucking Switzerland at it again
I'm naive, or stupid, or something. I thought we were making fun of you people that were unwilling to eat dog meat and I may have accidentally helped give that particular struggle session some good momentum.
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That was the joke. Not sure why it was deleted, but that was the joke