• @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
      hexbear
      8
      11 months ago

      You could argue about vassel-ness, but yes, the whole Western block would, and many poor nations that lean that way as well, like Vietnam or Palau.

      • GarbageShoot [he/him]
        hexbear
        43
        11 months ago

        Vietnam has some beefs with China, but I think it's a bit more up in the air than that which way they'd turn since it'd be a real existential threat to them to militarily oppose China like that (plus they do have some productive deals with China).

        • @rjs001@lemmygrad.ml
          hexbear
          13
          11 months ago

          Vietnam would shoot themselves in the foot by going against China. Either with China or attempting neutrality if possible. No country in the world that boarders China, Chinese allies and traded with them that much would do anything against them

        • @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
          hexbear
          4
          edit-2
          11 months ago

          True, and I have no special insight into Vietnamese politics. In this scenario the US is also right there, though, and is stronger than China assuming no MAD.

          Vietnam and Palau should be read as examples only.

          • silent_water [she/her]
            hexbear
            35
            11 months ago

            stronger than China

            citations-needed US not looking so hot after pissing money down the drain in forever wars for 2 decades.

            • @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
              hexbear
              1
              edit-2
              11 months ago

              That would be MAD. Unless they're loaded with conventional warheads, in which case they'll run out pretty early on because those missiles are expensive and the US has bottomless supplies to reply with.

              • emizeko [they/them]
                hexbear
                2
                edit-2
                11 months ago

                "the USA, where neoliberal capitalism has hollowed out the defense contractors so much they can't produce anywhere near enough artillery shells, has bottomless supplies and can afford more aircraft carriers than China can afford hypersonic missiles, which the USA has not even been able to successfully test."

                pathetic cope

                • @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
                  hexbear
                  1
                  11 months ago

                  No, they just need to afford more missiles with a similar range. Aircraft carriers might prove to be the new battleships, but that's not the whole US military.