Plenty of people eat algae (and diatoms), which are neither plants, animals, or fungi, they're chromists. Also, mushrooms aren't the only fungi we eat. Wila and Caribou Lichen are examples of edible lichens, and Morels actually aren't mushrooms.
There are also tons of bacteria and other fungi that are used in the production of food, but I don't think they count directly as food.
If you are into stuff like that: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0119248
Plenty new kingdom and domain classifications happening within the last decade(s).
There is also a lot of cross interactions between them, but for classification it is still somewhat useful and somewhat bad.
However OP's main point of that everything basically belongs to life or side products that we it remains. Even though we also consume stuff like salt, which is not alive.
During my Uni they mostly used the three kingdom view, but suggested that there might be some changes coming in due to progress in experimental and conceptual methods. Which included cross species RNA/DNA etc. exchange even from within different kingdoms and that humans/animals also contains a ton of other kingdoms, so for complex life it ought to not be mistaken with "heights of evolution".
However the conviction was that mostly the categorization was useful enough, in many cases even as if.
I'm a bit confused as with the three domain view, it is informed by genomic analysis
Yeah, I think it has also a bit to do with the cultures in research places and countries. The gap between the concept (which is for humans) and phylogenetic trees is to be underlined. However I am not informed enough to tell anything more than that and thank you for your comment, it lead to some interesting read ups.
Chantarelles do not have true gills, that's true. I was just trying to be simple with the description of gills. But you're absolutely right that truffles are not mushrooms either. They're an entirely different type of sporocarp.
Taxonomically speaking, though, they're still basidiomycota, same as the "true" gilled mushrooms. I think any reasonable definition of mushroom someone could come up with is going to be para- or polyphyletic and it doesn't hurt to lump in morels, even if they are in a completely different phylum.
Mycologists would avoid the term in formal communication entirely; the terms of art would be Basidiocarp for basids and Ascocarp for ascos, or sporocarp generally. In less formal communication my experience has been that mushroom is used as a colloquial stand-in for any sort of macroscopic sporocarp. Linguistic prescriptivism can be fun ("Hey guys - did you a tomato is actually a berry?!") but the stipe-pileus-hymenium model of a mushroom is so narrowly defined I don't know of anyone who could legitimately stick to it without slipping up at some point.
the "mushroom" is not the organism, it's the fruiting body of some fungi, basically a reproductive appendage. it's like saying "a butt isn't an animal." they're all fungi, but there are so many types and forms of fungi with different reproductive strategies and forms/structures, even within a single species.
Plenty of people eat algae (and diatoms), which are neither plants, animals, or fungi, they're chromists. Also, mushrooms aren't the only fungi we eat. Wila and Caribou Lichen are examples of edible lichens, and Morels actually aren't mushrooms.
There are also tons of bacteria and other fungi that are used in the production of food, but I don't think they count directly as food.
If you are into stuff like that: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0119248
Plenty new kingdom and domain classifications happening within the last decade(s).
There is also a lot of cross interactions between them, but for classification it is still somewhat useful and somewhat bad.
However OP's main point of that everything basically belongs to life or side products that we it remains. Even though we also consume stuff like salt, which is not alive.
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During my Uni they mostly used the three kingdom view, but suggested that there might be some changes coming in due to progress in experimental and conceptual methods. Which included cross species RNA/DNA etc. exchange even from within different kingdoms and that humans/animals also contains a ton of other kingdoms, so for complex life it ought to not be mistaken with "heights of evolution".
However the conviction was that mostly the categorization was useful enough, in many cases even as if.
Yeah, I think it has also a bit to do with the cultures in research places and countries. The gap between the concept (which is for humans) and phylogenetic trees is to be underlined. However I am not informed enough to tell anything more than that and thank you for your comment, it lead to some interesting read ups.
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the fuck are morels then?!
No gills, no pores: not a mushroom. They're actually called Sac fungi.
A gills or pores criterion would exclude mushrooms such as truffles and chanterelles (which have tubes or teeth).
Chantarelles do not have true gills, that's true. I was just trying to be simple with the description of gills. But you're absolutely right that truffles are not mushrooms either. They're an entirely different type of sporocarp.
Taxonomically speaking, though, they're still basidiomycota, same as the "true" gilled mushrooms. I think any reasonable definition of mushroom someone could come up with is going to be para- or polyphyletic and it doesn't hurt to lump in morels, even if they are in a completely different phylum.
I'm not a biologist or anything, all I know is that mycologists do not consider morels or truffles to be mushrooms.
Mycologists would avoid the term in formal communication entirely; the terms of art would be Basidiocarp for basids and Ascocarp for ascos, or sporocarp generally. In less formal communication my experience has been that mushroom is used as a colloquial stand-in for any sort of macroscopic sporocarp. Linguistic prescriptivism can be fun ("Hey guys - did you a tomato is actually a berry?!") but the stipe-pileus-hymenium model of a mushroom is so narrowly defined I don't know of anyone who could legitimately stick to it without slipping up at some point.
Good to know. I'll just keep my fun facts in the trivia zone.
the "mushroom" is not the organism, it's the fruiting body of some fungi, basically a reproductive appendage. it's like saying "a butt isn't an animal." they're all fungi, but there are so many types and forms of fungi with different reproductive strategies and forms/structures, even within a single species.