It's just incredible how consistent views are under the western propaganda umbrella. Yeah, we're pretty consistent too, but it's weird seeing it from the outside. There's no critique, there's no self-reflection, there's often no logic or perspective of any kind. They keep yelling "sovereignty" like it's a magic word and they think it means something.
Unfortunately it's also really boring. The same people with the same childish understanding and incurious diet of media saying the same things over and over and over and over. I wish more of our team would disengage. I'm certainly not getting any wiser going through these conversations on repeat and I don't think anyone else is, either.
They still have layers to unpack. I remember years ago I thought I was as left as could be online because I was browsing "progressive" subreddits and had liberal views, then I noticed that people kept parroting the same idealistic, vibes based sentiments about everything. This journey of self-reflection led me to ML and finally have strong confidence in assessing matters for what they are instead of the media diet you mentioned