Attitudes like this is why we can't have good public aid. No help can be given unconditionally, because someone might take a little bit too much.
To avoid the horror of someone getting a little bit more than they were supposed to, we will instead make the system worse for everyone involved. We will put in "safeguards" that will cost us more than just letting some people cheat themselves to a slightly larger piece of help.
Meanwhile we thank the billionaires for the crumbs of tax they deem fitting to pay.
It's not even about people getting more than they're supposed to. If that were the case, none of the examples in the original post would be relevant because they're simply laundering the same amount of EBT payments into cash. If it was strictly about "more" then it shouldn't matter whether a poor person uses EBT money for milk or malt whiskey.
This is really about the idea that poor people should suffer for their sin of being poor. It's the whole "I work hard, so people who don't shouldn't enjoy life" mentality. Of course it ignores the fact that many people on EBT payments are also working jobs but cost of living has outpaced minimum wage to such a comical extent that full time workers are resorting to welfare to just live.
"They're shoplifting!" No they're not, who gives a shit? "It'll make things more expensive for the rest of us" shoplifting is such a tiny expense to stores, that's really not what makes things more expensive.
"This Immigrant Cheated The State By Pretending He Was Three People! He Got Thrice The Amount Of Scraps" and similar stories are common dreg, as if some dude living large on 5k a month or whatever is the reason the state can't afford to take care of its people.
Yeah some people are gonna skim the cream, but when it's small fry who gives a shit? Maybe they'd stop skimming if the fat cats stopped eating all the fucking cream
Yeah some people are gonna skim the cream, but when it's small fry who gives a shit? Maybe they'd stop skimming if the fat cats stopped eating all the fucking cream
the funny part about is that the scammer, career criminal, etc is actually living the american dream more than these working class people that get heated about it while dreaming about some day owning a small business and being self-employed and continuing to hate on people poorer than them, just even more. the lumpen is emulating the capitalist, but in a much more successful way than the worker that only envies him and in a much more direct and overt manner that the actual capitalist, who is too privileged to actually have to resort to doing crimes, or does them and evades any prosectution, because he can just write the laws that make what he does legal and buy politicians and city hall and control police and while feeding the lie of democracy and capitalist ideology to workers, making them feel that hustling legally is the ultimate goal of society. yes, the crook, scammer, thief, cheat, gangster, sociopathic drug addict, etc, is still behaving in a way that will prevent him from having class consciousness and often refuses to get a job because of myriads of reasons including recidivism, lack of privilege, trauma and anger issues, addictions, etc and is not to be emulated but the worker that bought into the capitalist ideology is only chastizing him because he isn't "civil" or "proper" enough and would be salivating over them if they did it the "right" way, aka if they had more money and capitalized in accordance to the liberal ideology, even though its really the same drive to get over on workers that motivates both "criminal" and "businessman"
The cost of administrating benefits, ie fact checking and means testing and complex rules etc, typically costs 1-2x as much as the benefits themselves. It's not even about saving money, it's about making sure that poor people are sufficiently screwed.
Attitudes like this is why we can't have good public aid. No help can be given unconditionally, because someone might take a little bit too much.
To avoid the horror of someone getting a little bit more than they were supposed to, we will instead make the system worse for everyone involved. We will put in "safeguards" that will cost us more than just letting some people cheat themselves to a slightly larger piece of help.
Meanwhile we thank the billionaires for the crumbs of tax they deem fitting to pay.
It's not even about people getting more than they're supposed to. If that were the case, none of the examples in the original post would be relevant because they're simply laundering the same amount of EBT payments into cash. If it was strictly about "more" then it shouldn't matter whether a poor person uses EBT money for milk or malt whiskey.
This is really about the idea that poor people should suffer for their sin of being poor. It's the whole "I work hard, so people who don't shouldn't enjoy life" mentality. Of course it ignores the fact that many people on EBT payments are also working jobs but cost of living has outpaced minimum wage to such a comical extent that full time workers are resorting to welfare to just live.
yeah if a homeless person is stealing water you know what just let them have the water
"They're shoplifting!" No they're not, who gives a shit? "It'll make things more expensive for the rest of us" shoplifting is such a tiny expense to stores, that's really not what makes things more expensive.
"This Immigrant Cheated The State By Pretending He Was Three People! He Got Thrice The Amount Of Scraps" and similar stories are common dreg, as if some dude living large on 5k a month or whatever is the reason the state can't afford to take care of its people.
Yeah some people are gonna skim the cream, but when it's small fry who gives a shit? Maybe they'd stop skimming if the fat cats stopped eating all the fucking cream
the funny part about is that the scammer, career criminal, etc is actually living the american dream more than these working class people that get heated about it while dreaming about some day owning a small business and being self-employed and continuing to hate on people poorer than them, just even more. the lumpen is emulating the capitalist, but in a much more successful way than the worker that only envies him and in a much more direct and overt manner that the actual capitalist, who is too privileged to actually have to resort to doing crimes, or does them and evades any prosectution, because he can just write the laws that make what he does legal and buy politicians and city hall and control police and while feeding the lie of democracy and capitalist ideology to workers, making them feel that hustling legally is the ultimate goal of society. yes, the crook, scammer, thief, cheat, gangster, sociopathic drug addict, etc, is still behaving in a way that will prevent him from having class consciousness and often refuses to get a job because of myriads of reasons including recidivism, lack of privilege, trauma and anger issues, addictions, etc and is not to be emulated but the worker that bought into the capitalist ideology is only chastizing him because he isn't "civil" or "proper" enough and would be salivating over them if they did it the "right" way, aka if they had more money and capitalized in accordance to the liberal ideology, even though its really the same drive to get over on workers that motivates both "criminal" and "businessman"
The cost of administrating benefits, ie fact checking and means testing and complex rules etc, typically costs 1-2x as much as the benefits themselves. It's not even about saving money, it's about making sure that poor people are sufficiently screwed.