While there is diversity of opinion on Hexbear (wow that bit sounded really ChatGPT of me I'm sorry, Im literally currently playing with it lol) most folks on Hexbear agree that while Putin's decision to invade was a reprehensible one, the the decision was provoked by Ukraine and the West via NATO encirclement (and its important to understand that NATO has always inherently been a hostile power to Russia as to why the encroachment of NATO would provoke Russia) and also the War in Donbass and the treatment of the ethnic Russians there.
Right, I know NATO was literally created as a show of united force against the Soviet Union post WW2- when you say encirclement, what does that mean? Is it specifically the growth of NATO to include more States in what's traditionally Russia's sphere of influence?
Yes. It’s the fact the US has been making MISSILE agreements with every single nation that borders Russia in Europe. The US promised Soviet leaders that NATO would end after the cold war and then Yelstin that it would remain, but they wouldn’t expand further. By 2014 all that was left was Finland, Ukraine, and Belarus.
To put that in context as to how that was an aggressive move by the US:
What happened when Cuba, a US neighbor, attempted to make a missile agreement with the Soviets in the early 60s? Did the US respond with the understanding that this is something the people of Cuba might want, or did they respond by threatening to set the world on fire?
While there is diversity of opinion on Hexbear (wow that bit sounded really ChatGPT of me I'm sorry, Im literally currently playing with it lol) most folks on Hexbear agree that while Putin's decision to invade was a reprehensible one, the the decision was provoked by Ukraine and the West via NATO encirclement (and its important to understand that NATO has always inherently been a hostile power to Russia as to why the encroachment of NATO would provoke Russia) and also the War in Donbass and the treatment of the ethnic Russians there.
Right, I know NATO was literally created as a show of united force against the Soviet Union post WW2- when you say encirclement, what does that mean? Is it specifically the growth of NATO to include more States in what's traditionally Russia's sphere of influence?
Yes. It’s the fact the US has been making MISSILE agreements with every single nation that borders Russia in Europe. The US promised Soviet leaders that NATO would end after the cold war and then Yelstin that it would remain, but they wouldn’t expand further. By 2014 all that was left was Finland, Ukraine, and Belarus.
To put that in context as to how that was an aggressive move by the US: What happened when Cuba, a US neighbor, attempted to make a missile agreement with the Soviets in the early 60s? Did the US respond with the understanding that this is something the people of Cuba might want, or did they respond by threatening to set the world on fire?
check out who let Nato in the 60's
Adolf Heusinger ..
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