• Shinji_Ikari [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    Replace 'openly gay' with 'supports universal healthcare. Better?

    Uhhh, yeah I'm sure people who support universal healthcare have that hardwired into their brain from childhood. Totally the same thing.

    it's totally not a conclusion based on analysis of material conditions.

    • CorruptBuddha@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      10 months ago

      Uhhh, yeah I'm sure people who support universal healthcare have that hardwired into their brain from childhood. Totally the same thing.

      Ugh.. I'm kind of tired of clarifying this. I didn't say 'gay' I said 'openly gay', keyword 'openly', you understand the distinction do you not?

      • Shinji_Ikari [he/him]
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        10 months ago

        No, I think it's fairly bigoted to compare an open existence to a political act. To say the dignity to exist without hiding one's nature is a political act is pretty fucked up. It's not a political act for straight people to exist.

        This exact argument is why people get away with bigotry, calling it all political, implying the non political thing would be to hide and make sure no one sees you.

        Perhaps if you're tired of clarifying this, you should rethink your stance.

        • CorruptBuddha@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          10 months ago

          No, I think it's fairly bigoted to compare an open existence to a political act.

          Well the fact of the matter is open existence is a political issue. It shouldn't be, but it is, and I referenced it because it was appropriate to the topic of discussion. Like the whole fact that this is a contentious subject is why I referenced it.

          Just to be clear, are you denying that the right has traditionally been anti-lgbtq?

          Perhaps if you're tired of clarifying this, you should rethink your stance.

          Rethink it how?

          This exact argument is why people get away with bigotry, calling it all political, implying the non political thing would be to hide and make sure no one sees you.

          Sorry that's your implication not mine.

          Also... None of this makes me wrong. I kind of understand now you guys view everything through class structures whereas I'm a pretty staunch individualist. We really don't have common ground for a discussion.

          This has been interesting.