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  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    The raging hate-boner that grillman has for children and the fetish that they have for "disciplining" children chills my blood and speaks of their hidden pathology. libertarian-alert

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        10 months ago

        Nobody is more obsessed with kids than right wingers who dont have any

        Right wingers that have kids often abuse them, up to and including being estranged from their kids and deserving it. If you dare to peek into QAnon cult shit, a lot of it is a magical power fantasy of "and then all of our illnesses will be cured by medbeds, our debts will be wiped away by a MAGA jubilee, and our kids will beg our forgiveness or die." grill-broke

        • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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          10 months ago

          Yeah a lot of Qanon mythology rests on the idea that the uninformed will all en masse admit they were wrong, renounce leftism, and become ardent Trump supporters

          It really reminds me of Mormonism or the Millerites. I think home grown American religious movements only have one trick.

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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            10 months ago

            It really reminds me of Mormonism or the Millerites. I think home grown American religious movements only have one trick.

            It's pure frontierism ideology.

            "My frustrations with civilization will be solved if I strike out on my own and start my own mini civilization where I make the rules and the masses will crawl to me someday!"

            "Galt's Gulch" in Ayn Rand garbage fiction was exactly that. We even see that shit with techbros fantasizing about conquering space. my-hero

        • keepcarrot [she/her]
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          10 months ago

          "My grandkids will come up to me and say 'I'm sorry grandpa, you were right about everything, please cure us of our vaccine microchips. We'll do anything!'"

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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            10 months ago

            Yes.

            By "medbed" I mean the belief in alien technology that is supposedly held back by the deep state that cures everything imaginable and that trump-moist will totally release it for free to the MAGA believers.

            • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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              10 months ago

              My dear friend's brother believed that shit before covid. "They have all the cures they just refuse to release them." Then MAGA came along and he totally detached from reality.

              • Sephitard9001 [he/him]
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                10 months ago

                If they had a cure for everything then you'd think they would have found a way to fix our DNA like lobsters to mitigate aging for the ghouls at the very top of the food chain

      • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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        10 months ago

        It's like their ideological foot soldiers (no pun on my name) showing up to school board meetings to punish children from learning about actual stuff, and these people don't even have kids in the school district.

    • GarfieldYaoi [he/him]
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      10 months ago

      I know that you made this observation before, and I couldn't agree more. Right-wing parents see their children as accessories, and I think they intentionally sabotaged the job and housing market to maximize their children's dependency on them for as long as possible.

    • JamesConeZone [they/them]
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      10 months ago

      George Lakoff, an important linguist and cognitive scientist, wrote an interesting take on this in his book Moral Politics. Basically, the "strict father" model of language and communicating actions -- and eventually doing them -- really speaks to the ideals of their generation: "moral strength" and "moral obedience" being the biggest ones where weakness of any sort is immoral. Rewards and punishments are what keep this morality going, so failure to uphold this sense of morality -- here doing your homework and getting good grades -- needs punishment.

      Carried into the political realm, this moral system -- which puts strength at the top of the list of values -- leads to the belief that "your poverty or your drug habit or your illegitimate children can be explained only as moral weakness, and any discussion of social causes cannot be relevant," Lakoff explained.

      He's not a marxist, so I'd take some of the political conclusions with a grain of salt, but he knows how people interpret and use metaphor to navigate language and existence (His co-written book Metaphors to Live By is widely used in linguistics and cognitive studies).

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        10 months ago

        Carried into the political realm, this moral system -- which puts strength at the top of the list of values -- leads to the belief that "your poverty or your drug habit or your illegitimate children can be explained only as moral weakness, and any discussion of social causes cannot be relevant,"

        Calvinism. Not even once. jesus-cleanse