These bigoted, ignorant scum will never listen to anything. They are politically illiterate infants with an allergic reaction to reading.

They have ruined a safe space cultivated and cared for, they have turned this place into a new reddit.

I had a dude in my private messages going on about how I was both mutilating myself and other children. Many more people on hexbear have had similar experiences, with these worthless ignorant scum popping in to deliver the political equivalent of a giant shit.

As your friends, comrades, and people you say you defend get slurred at, dehumanized, and harassed please ask yourself:

Is it worth it?

I have the answer, I know you know it as well:

No its not

I used to think otherwise

I was a fool

its not worth a few laughs

even if you dunk all you want, that doesn't take away the knife those people put in our backs.

These bigots, fascists, and NATO liberals are as worthless offline as they are here, why should we give them any attention. They are worth less than the dirt beneath our fingernails. Why should we poison ourselves with their influence? We don't make any room for them offline, why should we not online?

And really

How many essays have your written?

How many sources have you combed through?

How many times have you explained the most basic facts of reality?

How many attempts at good faith?

Only for them to dismiss it in their stupidity. They don't read it, they just crumble and divert back to the programming these little shits trust in more than God.

For every time there is a good faith user, there are a dozen scumbag fascists. And most of the time, the "good faith one" just reverts back to their old shit.

Do you really think losing any member of the hexbear or lemmygrad community, longtime members or not, is worth a few good dunks?

I don't believe a small chance of gaining a new user is worth alienating an entire section of the community. The vast majority of those idiots are lost causes. If they are interested, the can just make an account and ask in good faith.

Is posting a meme to "own the liberals" worth your comrades getting more trauma from bigots harassing them?

No its not.

you've had your laugh, but it should end

Ban them all, SJW, lemm.ee, lemmy, the programmer nazi edglords. Keep Lemmygrad.

Defederate from those communities. We shouldn't sacrifice our own for more clicks. For having to subject ourselves to the opinions of people thoroughly brainwashed? We aren't reddit. We came here to get away from that. I'm sick of this. We are sick of this.

End it now

  • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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    10 months ago

    Yeah, sincerely been wanting to defed from libb.ee, the sh.itworks, and brogramming.dev since the get-go. I don't even get why anyone thought they were a good idea to federate with in advance. It's been awful the entire time and the only good thing was what, getting to angrypost at shitheads? If I wanted that, I'd have stayed on Reddit.

    I've seen so few good posters from these places that I could count them on one hand, most of the rest of their cool people have switched over here or to the 'grad already. The rest are always welcome to join us. Other than that it's been a constant flow of the worst dreck I've seen in years. Literally the exact reason I've entirely left all social media except for Hexbear, and now we chose to enshittify ourselves and become a warzone? Nah, this fucking sucks.

    • Catradora_Stalinism [she/her, comrade/them]
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      10 months ago

      the good thing is that hexbear has a base of reasonable people, and we can actually talk about changes we want and have them implemented. I hope we are able to defederate from everything besides lemmygrad.

      • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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        10 months ago

        I think there are some good small communities like the startrek one and the ttrpg zone. I think it's good to be connected to smaller communities, I just don't think we need to be commingled with these huge libcatchers.

        If people want to join the posting wars, they can make an account on lemmy.ml or something. I just don't want that to be my hexbear experience, and it's clear that a lot of others don't either.

          • 5ublimation
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            9 months ago

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            • ChestRockwell [comrade/them, any]
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              10 months ago

              Oh maybe I'll check that out. I'm fully aware that football/college football are super problematic. But I love it, grew up with it, want to shitpost about it.

              Also the total destruction of the fun weird shit that makes CFB good might be a good recruitment opportunity too. Since fans are seeing the total destruction of the sport.

        • radiofreeval [any]
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          10 months ago

          Pricefeild is good too (despite Warren being a better fit)

    • spectre [he/him]
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      10 months ago

      I generally agree, but i think in the longer term it'll settle down into something more stable, probably with more upsides than downsides. I'm thinking this will happen over the course of weeks to a few months.

      I think part of the reason is that it was premature to fed with other sites beyond the initial group. It seemed to me like .ml and .ee were just getting used to having us around after a couple of epic struggle sessions. Then we added another big instance to kick it off again when we definitely needed to be taking a break as things settled down.

      Anyway, you may still ask "what's the point?" since it's not really your style of posting and I guess it's not mine either, but I do enjoy watching how things unfold. I've had times where I've browsed little, when it gets stale. This isn't much better, but it's at least an evolving situation.

    • Hexarei@programming.dev
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      10 months ago

      Genuine question, what's wrong with programming.dev? I've been on this instance for a couple months now and so far have only really seen technical and programming discussions on the communities I'm subscribed to.

      I've not super kept up with the "everything" feed and all the conversations surrounding hexbear... but so far all I'm seeing is people being really polarized about stuff I'm not informed about - and as such, prefer to keep quiet about - so I just lurk a bit in such threads as I don't feel I have much to contribute.

      Most of the stuff I've seen has been between hexbear and SIJW though, this is the first comment I've seen mention PD.

      • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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        10 months ago

        Nothing wrong with the programming discussions, but alot of programming.dev users have come into hexbear to post ignorant and hateful shit when it comes to politics

        Could be trolls using another instance as a launching pad for starting trouble in other instances

      • LesbianLiberty [she/her]
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        10 months ago

        For some reason I've ran into some real craven posters from programming.dev, tho idk if that's due to a site culture or just one off dumbasses using programming.dev since they're also software fellas.

        • Hexarei@programming.dev
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          10 months ago

          It doesn't seem like a site culture thing to me, but I've also not seen examples of what you're talking about so I can't say for sure. That really bites though.