I think it has become more than apparent that our federation with Hexbear has degraded the quality of browsing on this instance. I'm generally for open federation, but the amount of brigading and general toxicity is not conducive to the friendly communications that make Lemmy great.

  • Doubledee [comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    Don't people of a Chomsky-type bent sometimes self-describe as libertarian? It's less common in the US because of how libertarians here are usually right-wingers but the libertarians=pedophiles trope is less common abroad is my understanding. I usually peg them as more anarchist types, which usually are welcome in hexbear.

    Not super into this one wanting to defend NATO but I think they have a point about the pedo stuff.

    • Maoo [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      Chomsky palled around with Epstein so that's a very funny example.

      • Doubledee [comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        I know, I thought about bringing it up but I didn't think it would help make my point. I think the larger point (that self-described libertarians aren't all obsessed with age of consent the way that American ones are) is still valid, but it is very unfortunate that the poster example of what I'm trying to describe had Epstein as an accountant.

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Libertarian originally referred to an anarchist-like movement before getting coopted by Rand types

    • PopOfAfrica@lemmy.one
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      1 year ago

      Thank you BTW, but do you not think this level of vitriol from the other user is not justified. I did not say anything remotely worth that immediate harassment.

      Thats kind of the point of this post. Hexbear has rightly become maligned because this is how every single conversation goes.

      If I, a politically friendly person is met with that much hostility, then how do you expect hexbear to behave across Lemmy as a whole?

      • Doubledee [comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        I think a pretty strong reaction IS warranted against defense of NATO, personally I think it's a very bad take but I'm trying to stick up for you here. I think it would be better to focus the vitriol against that disagreement than going after your label.

        If it's any help I'm not sure how much awareness you have of the recent controversy that's been roiling with the folks at SJW but there have been a lot of people recently defending the specific position you are but also engaging in a pretty hostile way, especially in regards to the use of ableist/transphobic rhetoric that we do not tolerate. Nerves are a bit frayed on Hexbear writ large. I think a lot of Hexbears are reacting to hostility with carpet bombing rather than precision as a result.

        Hell, until this weekend I was basically just a lurker, the recent stuff brought me out of the woodwork. I can't tell you what to do, but I think if you give Hexbear some time things will mellow out, things are just tense at the moment. I wouldn't say you should ever expect them to like you being pro-NATO but I think you're likely to get more constructive engagement generally the further out from this weekend we get.

        Just my two cents.

      • UlyssesT
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        8 days ago

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