How are there so many anti-vegans who go to vegan spaces/discussions to post their ”I like eating meat tho” tier bullshit? Fine, then you can fuck off. The irony is that vegans supposedly can't shut up about , but I see way more of this online.
Right?! I used to think a lot about that kind stuff a lot and I have theory about it: They see a vegan simply existing and (maybe subconsciously) think "shit, not eating meat etc kind of makes sense" but then instead of learning from it, they take it as a personal insult almost. Like "fuck you, you're not a better person than me". Then the initial reaction is to deny and deflect and throw shit, so you can delegitimise the argument and won't have to think about it critically. Same reason that people who like to drive cars a lot might dislike cyclists, or why some people are instinctively annoyed with people who are athletic. And now that I think about it, the same thing happens when libs face criticism from the left. Probably this is already a really basic psychological concept that I re-invented, but anyway.
Probably this is already a really basic psychological concept that I re-invented, but anyway.
Sounds like cognitive dissonance to me. I get, I also used to do the ”actually vegan diets aren't as good as you vegoons think” stuff before I figured out that the best way to get rid of cognitive dissonance was to just be vegan.
I never would've gone to spaces specifically for vegans to proclaim how awesome meat was, though. Do these people think there's a Medal of Edgy Contrarianism in it for them or something?
Yeah go for it. Try not to be too hardline if it stresses you out. My therapist told me a neat little thing a while ago when I was going through a similar lifestyle choice and felt like shit because I relapsed or whatever. They told me that instead of making the choice once and for all, you can always choose day-by-day. "Am I vegan today?" instead of "I am vegan."
Right?! I used to think a lot about that kind stuff a lot and I have theory about it: They see a vegan simply existing and (maybe subconsciously) think "shit, not eating meat etc kind of makes sense" but then instead of learning from it, they take it as a personal insult almost. Like "fuck you, you're not a better person than me". Then the initial reaction is to deny and deflect and throw shit, so you can delegitimise the argument and won't have to think about it critically. Same reason that people who like to drive cars a lot might dislike cyclists, or why some people are instinctively annoyed with people who are athletic. And now that I think about it, the same thing happens when libs face criticism from the left. Probably this is already a really basic psychological concept that I re-invented, but anyway.
They can't be doing the wrong thing. They're the main character.
I think my biggest regret is saying that I'm vegan at work. Now people talk about what they ate over the weekend or whatever, remember that I'm vegan, and then start talking about their reasoning behind why eating fish is okay. I didn't ask bro
And it's like, I care, but you don't want to have the conversation and I don't have time for it in the brief spaces where we can talk.
My favorite story after I came over to the veganside:
At my last job a co-worker called my for help on a system and went on a 5 minute unprovoked tirade about vegans. Like just went off and went down the list checking each carnist talking point along the way. Just very unhinged.
After he got done, I said " you know I'm vegan, right?"
This mother fucker went on and said " oh well I don't care what vegans eat as long as they don't shove it down my throat."
And I'm not even joking but the next thing he fucking said was "you eat chicken tho right?"
I think at least some of it is their attempt to bury a painful sliver of guilt about what they're consuming, overcompensating by going from the uncomfortable "maybe what I am consuming is cruel" feeling to "sticking it to those silly comical vegans validates my consumption" reaction.
How are there so many anti-vegans who go to vegan spaces/discussions to post their ”I like eating meat tho” tier bullshit? Fine, then you can fuck off. The irony is that vegans supposedly can't shut up about
, but I see way more of this online.
Right?! I used to think a lot about that kind stuff a lot and I have theory about it: They see a vegan simply existing and (maybe subconsciously) think "shit, not eating meat etc kind of makes sense" but then instead of learning from it, they take it as a personal insult almost. Like "fuck you, you're not a better person than me". Then the initial reaction is to deny and deflect and throw shit, so you can delegitimise the argument and won't have to think about it critically. Same reason that people who like to drive cars a lot might dislike cyclists, or why some people are instinctively annoyed with people who are athletic. And now that I think about it, the same thing happens when libs face criticism from the left. Probably this is already a really basic psychological concept that I re-invented, but anyway.
Sounds like cognitive dissonance to me. I get, I also used to do the
”actually vegan diets aren't as good as you vegoons think” stuff before I figured out that the best way to get rid of cognitive dissonance was to just be vegan.
I never would've gone to spaces specifically for vegans to proclaim how awesome meat was, though. Do these people think there's a Medal of Edgy Contrarianism in it for them or something?
This resonated with me. Fuck it, I might give this vegan thing a try.
Yeah go for it. Try not to be too hardline if it stresses you out. My therapist told me a neat little thing a while ago when I was going through a similar lifestyle choice and felt like shit because I relapsed or whatever. They told me that instead of making the choice once and for all, you can always choose day-by-day. "Am I vegan today?" instead of "I am vegan."
oh right so that's what it means
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It's called moral envy
They can't be doing the wrong thing. They're the main character.
I think my biggest regret is saying that I'm vegan at work. Now people talk about what they ate over the weekend or whatever, remember that I'm vegan, and then start talking about their reasoning behind why eating fish is okay. I didn't ask bro
And it's like, I care, but you don't want to have the conversation and I don't have time for it in the brief spaces where we can talk.
My favorite story after I came over to the veganside:
At my last job a co-worker called my for help on a system and went on a 5 minute unprovoked tirade about vegans. Like just went off and went down the list checking each carnist talking point along the way. Just very unhinged.
After he got done, I said " you know I'm vegan, right?"
This mother fucker went on and said " oh well I don't care what vegans eat as long as they don't shove it down my throat."
And I'm not even joking but the next thing he fucking said was "you eat chicken tho right?"
You can't write this shit.
I thought I'd just say I was vegan early to prevent the awkwardness of denying every offered meal, as a treat.
How do you know when someone's vegan?
Don't worry, you'll be able to tell by the small crowd gathered around them asking them inane questions like:
"But what if the animal consents though?"
"If you were stranded on a deserted island..."
"If everyone went vegan then wouldn't that make farm animals go extinct?"
"What about if I tell you that for every piece of meat that you don't eat, I'll eat two?"
etc. etc.
I think at least some of it is their attempt to bury a painful sliver of guilt about what they're consuming, overcompensating by going from the uncomfortable "maybe what I am consuming is cruel" feeling to "sticking it to those silly comical vegans validates my consumption" reaction.