• AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
    hexbear
    41
    10 months ago

    Please upvote this comment if you are a liberal and this headline gave you pause and maybe a nagging "are we the baddies?" moment of reflection

    • Grimble [he/him,they/them]
      hexbear
      12
      edit-2
      10 months ago

      Not upvoting as a diehard commie, just to respect the vote. Would love to see an actual poll of libs on this

    • thilo@lemmy.ml
      hexbear
      11
      10 months ago

      And then I read the article and remembered: reality is more complicated then good-bad.

      • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
        hexbear
        54
        edit-2
        10 months ago

        A sociopath told you that you aren't capable of having moral judgements about people dying and that you needed to listen to vetted experts instead. It's not complicated actually. I contend that pointless death is in fact a bad thing

          • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
            hexbear
            40
            10 months ago

            If you think there's glory in these deaths then stop cheering from the backfield and take the place of someone gang pressed off the street.

            • thilo@lemmy.ml
              hexbear
              4
              10 months ago

              Even if I would do that I suppose you wouldn't be happier with the situation. And guess what, neither would I.

              • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
                hexbear
                37
                10 months ago

                But that's what you're saying, right? These deaths are valuable just for the sake of fighting in some abstract sense? Because the bad guy is bad?

                • thilo@lemmy.ml
                  hexbear
                  2
                  edit-2
                  10 months ago

                  No, as I said in my first answer, there are no generally right or wrong answers. There are people dying because of some vanity project of the rich and powerful. I also hold the opinion, that those shall be prevented at all costs. But if my information on the conflict is correct and this war started as a civil war on the topic of secession, then the question get's hard to answer almost instantly, and also highly individual.

                  • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
                    hexbear
                    27
                    10 months ago

                    How can you both say that the war is a vanity project for the rich and powerful and the same time argue that the deaths caused by it have meaning?