For me it's Dragon Ball Z, that was a pretty fucked up show tbh.

Like holy shit, all the characters are terrible people except maybe Gohan and Trunks.

  • Sphere [he/him, they/them]
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    1 year ago

    Redwall. Such a fun book series, but when you think about it, it strongly endorses something that pretty neatly maps to racial essentialism (the "bad" species, e.g. rats, stoats, ferrets, etc, are portrayed as inevitably irredeemable, even when raised by "good" creatures).

    • comrade_pibb [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Yeah, I enjoyed the books as a kid but there was always something about this that bothered me.

      • Sphere [he/him, they/them]
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        1 year ago

        Yeah I have a signed copy of The Legend of Luke myself. I still love the books, tbh, I just would never suggest that a kid read whichever one has the Veil character (the one that goes whole-hog in explicitly endorsing what I'll call species essentialism). Apparently that was Outcast of Redwall (which as I recall wasn't a very fun book anyway).

    • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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      1 year ago

      Yeah this is something fantasy suffers from in general but it just feels worse in Redwall. I remember finding it odd even as a kid (partially because I liked the Ferrets and wanted them to be good)

    • Ufot [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I loved those books. I kept wanting one of the bad creatures to be a hero, i thought there was at least one that did it? Or maybe I just wanted it to happen so much and the author did a switcheroo on me. That said the badgers got me hyped af