• TheFriendlyDickhead@lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    The difference is that Hitler was after one specific group of people and wanted to eradicate them. Nobody says that Stalin was as bad as Hitler, bit his death count was just as high. He killed millions of political enemies or people in the regions he conquered.

    • ThereRisesARedStar [she/her, they/them]
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      9 months ago

      Hey, whoever told you those numbers is lying to you. The nazis killed 11 million people in the holocaust and 26-27 million soviet citizens. High estimates for people killed by the USSR outside of defeating nazism, failures, and sabotage is in the 100,000s, which is noticeably lower than capitalist oligarchies like the US and Britain. Also killing people based on them wanting to bring back old caste systems through violence is morally distinct from racism based mass killings.

      The difference is that Hitler was after one specific group of people and wanted to eradicate them.

      Also this isnt true, Jewish people, Roma, nuerodivergent people, disabled people, trade unionists socialists, communists, gay people, trans people, the list goes on.

      Also you're still equating the two after being told doing so is holocaust denial. You're saying "well they killed equivalent amounts of people!"

        • dialectical_analysis_of_gock [she/her]
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          9 months ago

          Stalin for example was a mass murderer just like Hitler. So why would anybody like him?

          Here is a mainstream Jewish holocaust survivor saying equating the communists and fascists is holocaust trivialization.

          You have compared communists and fascists, thus trivializing the Holocaust.

          Are you referring to famines caused by the Kulaks destroying grain exacerbating a natural famine cycle, something that was somewhat common before the modern era. If you are, would you also say that every death caused by starvation due to poverty in capitalist countries should count towards the leader's "death count"?

        • ThereRisesARedStar [she/her, they/them]
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          9 months ago

          How is saying Stalin wasn't a great guy either denying the holocaust?

          You aren't saying that though, you are saying that they killed an equivalent amount of people. You're morally equating them. Also even the CIA didn't consider stalin a dictator in their since declassified internal documents, treating him as one is another way you were taught to equate the USSR with nazi Germany.

          Yes ofc, but a big percentage of the deportated people were Jewish. They killed two thirds of the European Jewish population.

          I know, that isn't the only group they targeted though. I was simply correcting an inaccuracy in what you said.

          No:

          Sorry, I thought it was high hundreds of thousands but it was actually a million. My mistake. Still, that is in no way similar to killing upwards of 35 million people in the name of bigotry.

    • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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      9 months ago

      The difference is that Hitler was after one specific group of people and wanted to eradicate them.

      Either you have no idea what you're talking about, or you're just a straight up nazi apologist.

      Which one are you?

    • WideningGyro [any]
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      9 months ago

      Can you point us to the exact page of the Black Book you get your numbers from? I want to read along at home

        • MF_COOM [he/him]
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          9 months ago

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          Wild that using a source like this with a straight face doesn't cause you to pause and wonder if maybe there's anything to question about the US academy and their hegemonic representation of history.

        • ThereRisesARedStar [she/her, they/them]
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          9 months ago

          They literally say that the intentional killing was around 1 million. Wikipedia is a notably right wing anticommunist source, and they say a million intentional deaths.

          So you were lying?