That's right, folks, it's my third fucking Leslie post of the day and the Leslie posting does not stop. I aspire to be even 1/1000th as based as Leslie was. o7

Up for discussion this week is anything from chapters 3 through 6. These discussion points kinda majorly fucking suck and y'all are free to bully me for them but I'm trying my best here.

  • What did you learn?
  • Was anything eye opening to you?
  • Are there any misconceptions about particular aspects of the trans community that have maybe been torn down?
  • Did anything make you reflect on how you view your own gender identity or expression?
  • Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
  • Are there things that brought out intense emotion? (ex: literally all of chapter 5 filled me with miraculously even more hatred for this shithole country)
  • Did you learn anything new about the medical hardships that trans people face? What are your thoughts?
  • Was there anything that really reaffirmed your beliefs as a leftist? - Please, God. If you're there, please strike me down; this is terrible but I just can't stop.

Rereading through this book now being as comfortable in my body as I am and actually paying close attention, it has shaken me to my core. My eyes have been blasted wide open so hard that I'm not even sure how the fuck I even identify anymore and that discomfort has motivated me to try using the pronoun tags to experiment a bit. So uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... yeah. That's something. O_O


This thread will be featured for 24 hours then will remain pinned in !transenby_liberation for the remainder of the week until next Saturday. Rinse and repeat one last time.

original thread
week #1 thread
pdf download
epub download
chapter 1 audiobook - Huge shout out to comrade @futomes for recording these. No words can truly express my appreciation for this. Thank you so much. ❤️
chapter 2 audiobook
chapter 3 audiobook

  • TransComrade69 [she/her,ze/hir]
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    4 years ago

    On the topic of past social unrest, I found this passage to still hold true to this day with modern movements and protests that we are seeing today. "NOOOOOOOO you can't get militant and violent to demand justice, you have to be civil and negotiate for your rights... like civilized people! The key to achieving socio-economic equality isn't to protest, riot, or strike, it's to vote! Just vote for your rights!" We hear it time and time again and nothing ever gets done. The movements are cooped by libs and only performative theatre is offered as a form of restitution. This book was written 22 years ago about Leslie's experiences even decades before that too. The quip about being trickled on killed me and filled me with rage knowing this is still occurring to this day.

    Passage - pg 76:

    What is the most effective strategy to forge a fight-back movement today? Should we deny our relationship to each other based on relative difference and try to place an arm’s distance between us? It sounds absurd. And yet there are some lesbians and gay men, I know, who fear that their “winnable” demands for legislative reforms or acceptance will be lost if they stand up for the rights of trans people.

    “Let us win our demands first,” they plead, “and then your demands will be more easily won later on.” That’s a trickle-down theory of reform. But those of us who have been tricked on in the past are not impressed with that strategy.

    When a young social movement breaks down societal closet doors and floods into the streets, it’s leading activists suddenly begin to get advice from those in power who were never “friendly” before. These advisors urge leaders to send in their “best-dressed, most articulate spokespeople” (code words for white and middle- to upper-classed) to negotiate for progressive legislation and other reforms. But, they counsel, “Keep it to a single, simple demand. And disassociate with those who are too angry and too militant.”