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  • VILenin [he/him]
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    11 months ago

    Did Ben Racism ever actually go to any of these places? Curious how you would distinguish a German from a Brit purely on the basis of appearance

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      11 months ago

      He traveled to Europe, but the Germans he's talking about there were probably the Pennsylvania "Palatine Boor" farmers, who were from around the Rhine Valley. What he really means is that you can visibly distinguish a poor farmer from a white upper class city dweller based on complexion.

      He also has a political motivation here to exclude Germans and Swedes from whiteness because Franklin wanted a purely Anglo America since he was racist as heck

      • VILenin [he/him]
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        11 months ago

        You’re telling me supergenius founding father Franklin (PBUH) couldn’t tell the difference between dirt and having dark skin?

        shocked-pikachu

        • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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          11 months ago

          I dunno if you're being sarcastic but if not there used to be a stark divide between pale wealthier white people (indoors) and poorer tanned white people (outdoors). Having a tan put you in a lower caste. Apparently this was such a noticeable thing you could visibly tell which people in Pennsylvania were German or English

          • VILenin [he/him]
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            11 months ago

            That’s not necessarily an ethnic difference. I’m sure if you kept the Germans indoors 23 hours a day they wouldn’t be “swarthy”.

            Seems more like a class divide to me

            • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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              11 months ago

              yes but he gets to decide how he's racist and if anyone could make him believe in only rational things he wouldn't be racist