Do they think the Catalan Anarchists had no bourgeois blood on their hands? Do they think the Makhnovites never executed counterrevolutionaries? Fucking idiots. I preferred it when anarchists actually threw pipe bombs.

  • Nematodes [he/him]
    hexbear
    7
    7 months ago

    I will gladly comment on this.

    Anarchist are anti-hierarchy. Authority is usually hierarchically designed and implemented. And thus we as anarchists condem it.

    This statement ignores other forms of power. Like non-hierarchical power structures. Mutual aid groups and community self defense. These and many other forms of direct action do not require authority or hierarchy to be powerful.

    We can be powerful, productive and non-hierarchical. We can have groups of people working together solving problems without bosses, masters, cops etc.

    • @qwename@lemmygrad.ml
      hexbear
      29
      7 months ago

      Are rules required for anarchism to function, and if they are, can these rules be viewed as an abstract authority commanding the anarchist community?

    • @CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml
      hexbear
      17
      7 months ago

      How does commumity self defense not require authority? They're certainly imposing their authority on whatever they're defending themselves from.

      • @enthusiasticamoeba@lemmy.ml
        hexbear
        6
        7 months ago

        Someone who is attacking you is attempting to enforce a hierarchy/authority on you. Defending yourself is rejecting that hierarchy/authority. If you were to attack back, then I would say you were trying to impose your authority on another. But self defense alone only brings one back to equal footing, where neither party has authority over the other.

        • @CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml
          hexbear
          5
          7 months ago

          That is a good point. I wouldn't be surprised if someone here links On Authority to try and debunk you, but (and this is an unpopular opinion on this instance) it's a garbage argument that projects the fallacy Engles is making onto the anti authoritarians, namely using a definition of authority different from the one anyone actually cares about. It is Engles who "...think[s] that when [he has] changed the names of things [he has] changed the things themselves".

        • Catradora_Stalinism [she/her, comrade/them]
          hexbear
          2
          7 months ago

          That is with your own authority though. A gun shooting someone is political power being thrust against another. And Anarchism doesn't establish itself in a vacuum, you usually have to overthrow the other established order.

          Its all authority, just renamed