Do they think the Catalan Anarchists had no bourgeois blood on their hands? Do they think the Makhnovites never executed counterrevolutionaries? Fucking idiots. I preferred it when anarchists actually threw pipe bombs.

  • CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    How does commumity self defense not require authority? They're certainly imposing their authority on whatever they're defending themselves from.

    • enthusiasticamoeba@lemmy.ml
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      1 year ago

      Someone who is attacking you is attempting to enforce a hierarchy/authority on you. Defending yourself is rejecting that hierarchy/authority. If you were to attack back, then I would say you were trying to impose your authority on another. But self defense alone only brings one back to equal footing, where neither party has authority over the other.

      • CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml
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        1 year ago

        That is a good point. I wouldn't be surprised if someone here links On Authority to try and debunk you, but (and this is an unpopular opinion on this instance) it's a garbage argument that projects the fallacy Engles is making onto the anti authoritarians, namely using a definition of authority different from the one anyone actually cares about. It is Engles who "...think[s] that when [he has] changed the names of things [he has] changed the things themselves".

      • Catradora_Stalinism [she/her, comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        That is with your own authority though. A gun shooting someone is political power being thrust against another. And Anarchism doesn't establish itself in a vacuum, you usually have to overthrow the other established order.

        Its all authority, just renamed