Both Ukraine and Palestine are fighting against an invading force. We can unanimously agree that Palestinians have have been illegally occupied in an open air prison/concentration camp for 75 years. And we seem to agree that Palestine cannot be a perfect victim and it is reasonable that they seek support in Hamas instead of their Israeli oppressors.

Now why can't the same logic be applied to Ukraine? There is absolutely a nazi problem in Ukraine. A nazi problem that needs to be wiped out. But Russia isnt trying to denazify Ukraine, they're trying to maintain borders and resist NATO. But while doing so they are indiscriminately killing civilians and are the aggressors.

Personally, I believe in what Norman Finkelstein has to say about Hezbollah and the red army. Both are not perfect, but I don't care about their politics. I care that they are a resisting force and believe a country should have the right to self determination.

So how are these situations diametrically opposed that you seem to be hostile towards Ukraine but supportive of Palestine?

I don't mean to come off as shaming or judgemental. I genuinely would like to hear your perspective.

Edit: I appreciate all of the thoughtful and patient responses. Even though I might not respond to everything here I am reading all of it. I was operating under a lack of information, which I've never seen any Western media source report on. Ever since leaving reddit, hexbear has been a great source of alternative perspectives and context. It's opened my eyes to a lot of how I've been misled by papers that I've trusted.

  • sharedburdens [she/her, comrade/them]
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    8 months ago

    What group of people is Ukraine ethnically cleansing?

    Ukranian citizens who are non-Ukranian speakers have been getting targeted for years leading up to this by language laws, this hasn't just been ethnic Russians but also Greeks, Romani, Hungarians.

    This then turned into routinely shelling the parts of Ukraine where these civilians predominantly live, and was leading into a full invasion before the SMO happened.

      • sharedburdens [she/her, comrade/them]
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        8 months ago

        I know too many people like that- it's agonizing having to be around them in professional situations and not just physically assault them. "look how many innocent people we're getting killed while making bank, don't worry it's worth it because Russians are dying"