Tired of all this pumpkin and plastic skeleton crap everywhere. Thanks, marketing ghouls rage-cry

What, are we going to start celebrating the 4th of July next? Might as well with the NATO membership I guess

  • thethirdgracchi [he/him, they/them]
    hexbear
    72
    8 months ago

    I'm not sure how to break this to you, but Halloween is European. Halloween was invented in Ireland, from the pagan celebration of Samhain. Even the practice of dressing up in costume and going from door to door asking for food is recorded as of the 16th century at the latest. Pranks, as well as "Mischief Night," also dates from the 18th century at the latest. This is all pre-Americanisation. It's not a continental European tradition but it's certainly European, not American.

    • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
      hexagon
      hexbear
      37
      8 months ago

      Sure, but this shit started not really being a thing in non-anglo European countries sometime in the 90s

        • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
          hexagon
          hexbear
          22
          8 months ago

          I file Halloween with Valentine's Day under "Fake American holidays imported to sell tacky plastic crap"

          • Wheaties [comrade/them]
            hexbear
            17
            8 months ago

            That's ok, you still celebrate the biggest, fakest and most tacky plastic holiday of them all; Christmas.

            • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
              hexbear
              11
              edit-2
              8 months ago

              nah christmas rocks I get to see all my family and just enjoy the vibes and goodwill to all men

              plus past a certain age christmas presents become books and socks (this is one of the main reasons to keep reading as an adult)

                • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
                  hexbear
                  9
                  8 months ago

                  because halloween isn't a holiday anyone celebrates with family gatherings, and the themes of goodwill to all men is a very explicit cultural aspect of christmas when it isn't for halloween.

                  You don't even get a day off for halloween because it was never a big deal culturally

                  • Wheaties [comrade/them]
                    hexbear
                    9
                    8 months ago

                    I always thought it would be interesting to declare some random dates as paid holidays, and tell people to figure out their own traditions for them.

                  • @wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one
                    hexbear
                    3
                    8 months ago

                    Thats, again, a personal you thing. Around me halloween is such a family thing that people without good family ties do a friends-giving style celebration to replace it.

                    And goodwill to all is a pretty common harvest celebration theme that halloween carries just as well as christmas, especially with how immensely cynical christmas has become.

                    I dont get a day off for most of my holidays, and christmas is included with that. Not sure why your bosses opinion on holidays matters tho.

                  • mar_k [he/him]
                    hexbear
                    1
                    edit-2
                    8 months ago

                    We don't get a day off so we celebrate the Friday or Saturday we have off before. They only give us shit off if it has supposed religious or historical importance, like Washington's Birthday or Colombus Day, they're federal holidays but ain't no cultural significance behind those

                    It definitely is a big deal culturally, especially for young people. Kids and parents go on haunted hayrides and carve jack o lanterns, teens and 20s dress up and party with each other. Hell plenty of people in their 30s and beyond still dress up and party. It's an informal holiday but still a ton of people's favorite holiday