https://nitter.net/PeterSinger/status/1722440246972018857

No, the art does not depict bestiality, don't worry.

        • CrushKillDestroySwag
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          1 year ago

          I don't think you do, but I think it's a contradiction to be sure. I'll say that I think it's fine to eat animals, but also I think it's not okay to have sex with them, and somewhere in between those two beliefs is artificial insemination of pigs and in practical terms that's a practice that just makes me shrug, so I suppose that my belief that it's not okay to have sex with animals is weaker than my belief that it's fine to eat them.

          • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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            1 year ago

            i have only ever heard vegans extend the definition of bestiality to include actions that are not for the sexual gratification of the person.

              • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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                1 year ago

                because your use of terminology is subcultural and the rest of us don't think it applies to the situation

                • booty [he/him]
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                  1 year ago

                  Let's back up to square one. Is it wrong to perform sex acts on a non-human animal? If so, why? You're talking too abstractly so I'd really like to just get something concrete to discuss with.

                  • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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                    1 year ago

                    i don't think that's square one, i think square one is further back.

                    Is a doctor (or medical technician or whatever job title idc) doing the last step of IVF performing a sex act on or with the patient? the adult patient consents of course, but i don't think anyone thinks a doctor with a "turkey baster" is doing a sex act. I would say "preforming sex acts on..." isn't applicable to animal husbandry in the way i understand all those words.

                    i'm not trying to debate bro here, it's just not possible to have a conversation if we think words mean different things... which gets back to my previous point about vegans using a wider "bestiality" than the rest of us, apparently including Kinsey.

    • BeamBrain [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Yes, how dare I point out the material realities that make your consumption choices possible

        • BeamBrain [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          You have to take up a finger-wagging "how dare you" stance and strawman my argument because you can't offer any coherent defense of your actions

          I'd tell you to watch Dominion, but you clearly have no interest in examining the reality behind your decisions

          Honestly if you'd just said "Yes, I know my decision to eat meat is predicated on horrific suffering on an industrial scale, but I don't care" I'd have at least a modicum of respect for you for acknowledging the choice you're making rather than acting like other people are beyond the pale for bringing it up