https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/india-votes-in-favour-of-un-resolution-against-israeli-settlements-in-palestine-2461835-2023-11-11

  • culpritus [any]
    hexbear
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    6 months ago

    https://lemmygrad.ml/c/alwaysthesamemap

    lots of examples of what this map emoji means here

    I particularly like this one of the countries that recognize Palestine, which is the inverse of the 'same map'.

    https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/f8d50ef2-6638-43e2-86e6-d1ece0d35add.png

    • @Urist@lemmy.ml
      hexbear
      3
      6 months ago

      No, this is not an explanation. For something as important as the imperial core, which you claim the map portrays, there needs to be an actual proper definition and reasoning behind it. Having a bunch of loosely corrolated maps is not it. The list of countries that recognize Palestine is also not a proper inverse.

      I am just tired of seeing this map spammed. Once some even ridiculed others for not acknowledgeding it as the de facto definition of imperial core. I think this is especially bad due to having yet to see anyone actually putting any effort into analysis of why it looks like it does. Spewing unsubstantiated ideas is for the incoherent bourgeoisie and fascists.

      • Chapo_is_Red [he/him]
        hexbear
        34
        6 months ago

        It's a meme (Moreover, the emote is named "international community" not "imperial core").

        Hexbear emotes are not rigorous theoretical statements. E.g.: xi-plz

      • culpritus [any]
        hexbear
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        6 months ago

        No each map is explained on that comm. You assigning it 'imperial core' and asking for an explanation is some JAQing off sealioning imo. Theses maps correlate how interests of countries align around various issues, and the 'same map' comes up a lot because of how these same countries often agree on things in contrast to the the rest of the world. It's not some socio-political theory, it's just the reality of how these countries align into blocs that correlate with maintaining the current US hegemonic status quo.

        The two maps that really 'explained' this concept for me were the map of countries that 'condemn China's treatment of Uyghur Muslims' contrasted with the map of 'countries that recognize Palestine'. It shows how this bloc of countries want to demonize China while supporting the ongoing genocide of Palestine's indigenous peoples. The principles they espouse are unmasked in the light of the truth of this comparison.

        • @Urist@lemmy.ml
          hexbear
          2
          6 months ago

          Saying I am sealioning is an accusation and not an opinion besides also being wrong. Here is one in return: Acting like the map is not usually considered to portray the imperial core is intellectual dishonesty on your part.

          • culpritus [any]
            hexbear
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            6 months ago

            citations-needed

            Whotf talks like this anyway?

            is an accusation and not an opinion besides also being wrong.

            • @Urist@lemmy.ml
              hexbear
              2
              6 months ago

              First you accuse me of sealioning and then you hide behind an "imo" like that is just your opinion. There is no such relativistic position on an objective matter. You are wrong to claim so and cowardly for disguising it as an opinion. With this in mind it does not surprise me that you stoop even lower with trying to berate me for my style of writing. Who tf acts like that?