I mean that all tracks. I've been a vegan long enough to know some people just don't have the means. But when people tell me vegan food is too expensive I generally laugh in their face. I haven't hunted since my teens. At this point I just go into the woods with a firearm just to justify the ownership.
sigh I've been a vegan since I left high school, when my parents couldn't control my diet.
Vegans that make comments like this are why people hate us. This is coming from a dude that ran around London with a bucket of red paint looking for people wearing fur.
A hunter that kills a deer once a season isn't buying beef from a packaging plant and not paying a capitalist to torture cows that may get wasted.
You or me aren't going to stop humans from eating meat. That's literally the key to climate change. But we can limit the suffering by not supporting factory farms.
A hunter that kills a deer once a season isn't buying beef from a packaging plant
Yes they are. I know because my dad used to bag a deer every year. We still ate factory farmed meat, because fun fact, a single deer carcass is actually not big enough to feed a family for an entire year.
People hate us (us vegans, I mean) not because we're rude on the internet, but because we're living proof that humans don't have to eat dead animals. We're proof that it's possible, easy even, to avoid paying for that suffering, and carnists hate that reminder.
I have no interest in being nice to carnists to be honest; in fact I disagree that it's why "people hate us". They hate us because they know they're wrong, and everytime you eat with them they're reminded of it.
Moreover, I believe being confrontational (which I was above when I assumed you weren't vegan) actually works better than trying to be nice. Humiliating them publicly means they'll immediately react badly, all dialogue will quickly be closed, but they'll be embarrassed and IMO that leads to more reflection on that later on - in other words: for that topic, bullying works. I might be wrong, but I genuinely achieved better success this way.
Don't left perfection be the enemy of progress.
I won't pretend killing creatures for fun is acceptable in any way, sorry.
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As a vegan I can respect people that actually take the time to do this. That being said, I'd hate if someone pulled me underwater and ate me.
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I mean that all tracks. I've been a vegan long enough to know some people just don't have the means. But when people tell me vegan food is too expensive I generally laugh in their face. I haven't hunted since my teens. At this point I just go into the woods with a firearm just to justify the ownership.
I don't. It doesn't matter how you murder them, you're still needlessly murdering them.
If you're equating a death in a factory farm to the death of a hunter, your goal isn't to limit suffering.
You keep telling yourself that as you munch down on flesh you ghoul, I'm sure it helps with the guilt somewhat
Stopping hunters absolutely also limits suffering
sigh I've been a vegan since I left high school, when my parents couldn't control my diet.
Vegans that make comments like this are why people hate us. This is coming from a dude that ran around London with a bucket of red paint looking for people wearing fur.
A hunter that kills a deer once a season isn't buying beef from a packaging plant and not paying a capitalist to torture cows that may get wasted.
You or me aren't going to stop humans from eating meat. That's literally the key to climate change. But we can limit the suffering by not supporting factory farms.
Don't left perfection be the enemy of progress.
Yes they are. I know because my dad used to bag a deer every year. We still ate factory farmed meat, because fun fact, a single deer carcass is actually not big enough to feed a family for an entire year.
People hate us (us vegans, I mean) not because we're rude on the internet, but because we're living proof that humans don't have to eat dead animals. We're proof that it's possible, easy even, to avoid paying for that suffering, and carnists hate that reminder.
I have no interest in being nice to carnists to be honest; in fact I disagree that it's why "people hate us". They hate us because they know they're wrong, and everytime you eat with them they're reminded of it.
Moreover, I believe being confrontational (which I was above when I assumed you weren't vegan) actually works better than trying to be nice. Humiliating them publicly means they'll immediately react badly, all dialogue will quickly be closed, but they'll be embarrassed and IMO that leads to more reflection on that later on - in other words: for that topic, bullying works. I might be wrong, but I genuinely achieved better success this way.
I won't pretend killing creatures for fun is acceptable in any way, sorry.