I am a bit unconfident about it...

Here, to give a basis of the argument I need to debunk, here's an article from right-libertarian think tank Reason.com to respond to:

https://reason.com/volokh/2021/04/24/race-and-violent-crime/

Blacks, which here means non-Hispanic blacks, were 12.5% of the U.S. population, and non-Hispanic whites were 60.4%. It thus appears from this data that the black per capita violent crime rate is roughly 2.3 to 2.8 times the rate for the country as a whole, while the white per capita violent crime rate is roughly 0.7 to 0.9 times the rate for the country as a whole.

Note: keep in mind he's extrapolating a certain part of the U.S, New York, to the rest of America's national crime statistics

Something in the vein of a masterpost like Naomi's research and rhetoric masterdoc

Easily understandable and accessible, yet with a great amount of statistics put upon it

  • Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]
    hexagon
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    10 months ago

    The reason why I asked is more of a personal reason. I don't wanna be caught lacking if I'm going to faced with this sort of shit, especially if it's by a smuglord like Charlie Kirk (yes he did utilize that 13/50 myth in an argument)

    • thirtymilliondeadfish [she/her]
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      10 months ago

      You need to refuse the argument on its premise, not debate it within the realms of its framing.

      Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies, and so on and so forth

      • Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]
        hexagon
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        10 months ago

        Idk... sometimes I feel like debating, sometimes I just do... it's just that I just want to get the myth off my chest, because some brainworms like that still keep on wigglin' inside my mind...

        • thirtymilliondeadfish [she/her]
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          10 months ago

          shapiro-poplar I would simply beat the brainworms with a stick.

          but really you gotta unlearn that shit, not entertain it. 13-50 is a retroactive justification for why black people need to be policed

          • Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]
            hexagon
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            10 months ago

            It's not that I learned it... it's just that I've haven't challenged the notion (this is just probably one of those notions that I had gotten, during my years as a slight chud...)