Honestly I feel like there's been a bit of a "switcheroo" with leftist online media discourse. I remember in my early 20s there was a lot of hate for the slop the "sheeple" loved coming from libertarian nerds, such to the point a lot of internet progressives actually began defending mainstream media and said aggressively disliking it was "elitist".
Sometime around Trump, or maybe it was the pandemic, the right became a bunch of treat hogs gobbling up their slop, so the left went back to being contrarian hipsters who sneer at Marvel movies and insist people watch weird Serbian indie movies.
Personally I prefer the latter but it was still a weird shift.
prevailing winds like that do sorta come and go but also... maybe some people just like taylor's music and some don't and it doesn't have objective merit or lack of merit? Just blaming contrarianism is kinda tired IMO, as is just blaming a counter-reaction to contrarianism for when people defend popular media. I don't give a shit what anyone else likes I just want people to stop trying to psychologize me when I express a completely subjective opinion on something
I get what you're saying and people on here do get... weird... about media. I would point out though, I think there's two factors playing into people's neuroticism about it.
1: there's some market logic to this behavior. If things I don't like get too popular, and things I like get too unpopular, the industry that makes these things will make less and less of what I like and more and more of what I don't. So there's a bit of a market incentive for fans to discourage fandoms of other things and promote their own. That's where a lot of the mockery come from. If I can make being a fan of bad thing cringe, there will be less bad thing.
2: media does have an impact on society. I think this impact gets a bit overstated at times, but it's there. A lot of these impassioned take down are coming from people who think modern media is having a detrimental affect on culture as a whole, heck certain people here think Netflix shows are turning people into psychopaths. Correct or not I don't think it justifies smug hostility towards people, but if it is true I get why people can get a tad heated by it.
Also Swift fans can be pretty culty, and I think some people think criticizing here will demystify her a bit and maybe get her fans to calm the fuck down.
Yeah I guess. I'm not a fan of hers but its not just because she's popular, I just don't like the music or the culty part of the fanbase. But I mostly stick to live and let live and don't comment on it unless those specific things come up
Honestly I feel like there's been a bit of a "switcheroo" with leftist online media discourse. I remember in my early 20s there was a lot of hate for the slop the "sheeple" loved coming from
libertarian nerds, such to the point a lot of internet progressives actually began defending mainstream media and said aggressively disliking it was "elitist".
Sometime around Trump, or maybe it was the pandemic, the right became a bunch of treat hogs gobbling up their slop, so the left went back to being contrarian hipsters who sneer at Marvel movies and insist people watch weird Serbian indie movies.
Personally I prefer the latter but it was still a weird shift.
prevailing winds like that do sorta come and go but also... maybe some people just like taylor's music and some don't and it doesn't have objective merit or lack of merit? Just blaming contrarianism is kinda tired IMO, as is just blaming a counter-reaction to contrarianism for when people defend popular media. I don't give a shit what anyone else likes I just want people to stop trying to psychologize me when I express a completely subjective opinion on something
I get what you're saying and people on here do get... weird... about media. I would point out though, I think there's two factors playing into people's neuroticism about it.
1: there's some market logic to this behavior. If things I don't like get too popular, and things I like get too unpopular, the industry that makes these things will make less and less of what I like and more and more of what I don't. So there's a bit of a market incentive for fans to discourage fandoms of other things and promote their own. That's where a lot of the mockery come from. If I can make being a fan of bad thing cringe, there will be less bad thing.
2: media does have an impact on society. I think this impact gets a bit overstated at times, but it's there. A lot of these impassioned take down are coming from people who think modern media is having a detrimental affect on culture as a whole, heck certain people here think Netflix shows are turning people into psychopaths. Correct or not I don't think it justifies smug hostility towards people, but if it is true I get why people can get a tad heated by it.
Also Swift fans can be pretty culty, and I think some people think criticizing here will demystify her a bit and maybe get her fans to calm the fuck down.
Yeah I guess. I'm not a fan of hers but its not just because she's popular, I just don't like the music or the culty part of the fanbase. But I mostly stick to live and let live and don't comment on it unless those specific things come up