https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/15/world/europe/ukraine-military-recruitment.html

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      10 months ago

      While fragging is funny and cool as hell, let's not pretend that military administrators lack methods for compelling compliance among conscripts on the battlefield. One of the primary purposes of basic training is to instill military discipline by breaking people down psychologically and building them back up as conditioned loyalists.

      I would not bank on soldiers breaking ranks, particularly when they're moved up to the front lines and caught between the rock and the hard place.

      • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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        10 months ago

        One of the primary purposes of basic training is to instill military discipline by breaking people down psychologically and building them back up as conditioned loyalists.

        Yeah but these guys aren't being conditioned, they're being given guns and sent straight into the meat grinder. I'd say they're better off shooting their CO and defecting to Russia (forever) but Ukraine also has snipers for just this occurrence.

    • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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      10 months ago

      I would be looking for the first opportunity to run over to Russian lines and surrender

        • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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          9 months ago

          Allegedly there is a Russian radio frequency that Ukrainians can broadcast on to receive instructions on how to cross lines and surrender. Idk if it's true or not though, plenty of lies on both sides of this war.