I wonder basically everyday if nobody realizes Israel is doing to Palestinians what the Nazis did to them Jews, or if everybody knows and you're just not supposed to say it.
The Nazis didn’t do anything to “Israelis” other than give them training, weapons, and other material support. Eichmann’s defense against claims that he “hated Jews” was “how could you say that? I worked great with the Zionist Jews and we agreed about everything. I diverted money and trains to get as many of them to Palestine as we could until the British wouldn’t let us do that anymore.”
Basically what eichmann said at his trial was that he was working with the Zionist Jews who 100% agreed with his ideology (Germany is for the Germans and some other place is for the Jews) but once he couldn’t send Jews to “their” land where they belong (because of logistics) they had “no other choice” but to kill them all, at which point it didn’t matter if they were Zionists or not.
Edit: and now is a good time to remember this and it’s echo in the current Israeli rhetoric of needed to “expel” the Palestinians. When this proves not to be a “viable solution” we shouldn’t be surprised when a more “final solution” is the “only choice” left. They didn’t even change the rhetoric. Only the names.
I assume there's a lot of ignorance and cognitive dissonance, and a lot of "Israel is doing what the Nazis did and that's good because this time the victims deserve it".
I wonder basically everyday if nobody realizes Israel is doing to Palestinians what the Nazis did to
themJews, or if everybody knows and you're just not supposed to say it.The Nazis didn’t do anything to “Israelis” other than give them training, weapons, and other material support. Eichmann’s defense against claims that he “hated Jews” was “how could you say that? I worked great with the Zionist Jews and we agreed about everything. I diverted money and trains to get as many of them to Palestine as we could until the British wouldn’t let us do that anymore.”
I think I remember that the Nazis did end up killing some Zionist Jews though... I'll try to find it, I think it was here on hexbear
Basically what eichmann said at his trial was that he was working with the Zionist Jews who 100% agreed with his ideology (Germany is for the Germans and some other place is for the Jews) but once he couldn’t send Jews to “their” land where they belong (because of logistics) they had “no other choice” but to kill them all, at which point it didn’t matter if they were Zionists or not.
Edit: and now is a good time to remember this and it’s echo in the current Israeli rhetoric of needed to “expel” the Palestinians. When this proves not to be a “viable solution” we shouldn’t be surprised when a more “final solution” is the “only choice” left. They didn’t even change the rhetoric. Only the names.
I mistakenly conflated Israelis and Jews, which are not the same thing. I just wrote it poorly. I think saying they are the same is antisemitic.
No hard feelings. We live in a world absolutely saturated with people talking that way so it’s hard to never slip now and again.
I assume there's a lot of ignorance and cognitive dissonance, and a lot of "Israel is doing what the Nazis did and that's good because this time the victims deserve it".
safe to say there's a middle ground here, I think