They need to do it within 10-20 years. Because of the short timescale they need to collapse living standards to achieve it. If they had 40-50 years they might be able to do it safely, but they lose internationally before then.
What I'm getting at here is that... They need a catalyst for this living standards collapse. They need a reason for it, like a major war that causes people to accept "sacrifices had to be made". This needs to be a major event that justifies the change in standards but does not destroy everything in a nuclear armageddon.
This need for a catalyst is what I am most worried about right now, it keeps me up at night. The size of what they need to do to get away with this is absolutely massive.
I don't agree that the police and military will be able to keep the "peace" alone. It's not just left revolutionaries they have to worry about, the US itself balkanising as political opportunists and capitalists see opportunities for looting is a more likely outcome before revolution. A sudden collapse in living standards doesn't just threaten the country from the revleft but from many others as well.
I don't think the US would remain one country through an attempt at decoupling without a catalyst to use as political excuses and a lens to direct people's focus. This is why I think one is very likely if the attempt to decouple is really carried out.
yeah ur right. thats scary as fuck. i can def see petit bourgs and PMCs being the first to revolt after being deprived of their treats. then conditions worsen further for the underclasses bc of the cost of concessions given to the petit bourg/PMCs. then discontent just snowballs until there's a civil war. hopefully communists have the sense to stay alive until the right time comes, it'll be hard to tell tho
Exactly, so if they do carry out decoupling then they'd do so alongside some sort of ridiculously massive catalyst to justify a change in era for the whole world. Some sort of very serious war they can blame for all the policies that need to be undertaken.
They need to do it within 10-20 years. Because of the short timescale they need to collapse living standards to achieve it. If they had 40-50 years they might be able to do it safely, but they lose internationally before then.
What I'm getting at here is that... They need a catalyst for this living standards collapse. They need a reason for it, like a major war that causes people to accept "sacrifices had to be made". This needs to be a major event that justifies the change in standards but does not destroy everything in a nuclear armageddon.
This need for a catalyst is what I am most worried about right now, it keeps me up at night. The size of what they need to do to get away with this is absolutely massive.
I don't agree that the police and military will be able to keep the "peace" alone. It's not just left revolutionaries they have to worry about, the US itself balkanising as political opportunists and capitalists see opportunities for looting is a more likely outcome before revolution. A sudden collapse in living standards doesn't just threaten the country from the revleft but from many others as well.
I don't think the US would remain one country through an attempt at decoupling without a catalyst to use as political excuses and a lens to direct people's focus. This is why I think one is very likely if the attempt to decouple is really carried out.
yeah ur right. thats scary as fuck. i can def see petit bourgs and PMCs being the first to revolt after being deprived of their treats. then conditions worsen further for the underclasses bc of the cost of concessions given to the petit bourg/PMCs. then discontent just snowballs until there's a civil war. hopefully communists have the sense to stay alive until the right time comes, it'll be hard to tell tho
Exactly, so if they do carry out decoupling then they'd do so alongside some sort of ridiculously massive catalyst to justify a change in era for the whole world. Some sort of very serious war they can blame for all the policies that need to be undertaken.