I haven't read Saito's books, or looked too deeply into degrowth as a movement. I just read this article and thought it made some good arguments against what it claims are Saito's understandings of Marx. I'm not sure I agree with everything, but I thought it was interesting enough to share.
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but for real its beside the point whether marx said exactly what saito says he said, the whole world can't live like average american, having 2 tonnes of metals dug up for personal movement, shoveling yearly consumption of someone in sahel to heat up house leaking shit, and buying new tvs every 5 years. tv should work 20 years, phones should be used for 10 years etc. the fuck it is, except degrowth, degrowth of consumption?
At the same time, what's the point of talking about degrowth communism when communism is inherently stable and don't need growth? Is it just rebranding?
I took it that way. Since the slogan is "degrowth communism", and not "degrowth socialism" I interpret it as what actual communism would look like in regards to production, and so imo it's pretty redundant