• InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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    8 months ago

    Are you actually saying that "Vote!" is a lie?

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    In all seriousness - I don't understand Americans at all either and I am American.

    • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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      8 months ago

      I assume it's just incredibly heavy indoctrination combined with extremely superstitious and magical thinking. If you're told USA #1 your whole life, you wouldn't want to rock the boat too much, because what if it turns out that isn't true, and that's because you found that out? Everything will be fine if you just don't question things and keep your head in the sand. Vote Biden.

      (Actually "Just keep your head in the sand, everything will be fine. Vote Biden" sounds like a better campaign slogan than all the other bullshit he's doing.)

      • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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        8 months ago

        Dems love to trumpet that they'll "restore Roe". It's all lies. There are only two ways to do that. Number one is highly unlikely. And number two is so out there for the dems - it's as likely as science fiction.

        1. Pack the court and then pass the law.

        2. Simply give the court the middle finger, do what they want and pretend the court doesn't exist.

         

        If you're told USA #1 your whole life...

        American exceptionalism and American civil religion are Americans' drugs of choice. And it's a heavy substance abuse problem that's bipartisan.

        I'll leave this here.

        American civil religion

        Fourteen tenets

        In a survey of more than fifty years of American civil religion scholarship, Squiers identifies fourteen principal tenets:

        1. Filial piety

        2. Reverence to certain sacred texts and symbols such as the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, and the flag

        3. The sanctity of American institutions

        4. The belief in God or a deity

        5. The idea that rights are divinely given

        6. The notion that freedom comes from God through government

        7. Governmental authority comes from God or a higher transcendent authority

        8. The conviction that God can be known through the American experience

        9. God is the supreme judge

        10. God is sovereign

        11. America's prosperity results from God's providence

        12. America is a "city on a hill" or a beacon of hope and righteousness

        13. The principle of sacrificial death and rebirth

        14. America serves a higher purpose than self-interests

        • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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          8 months ago

          I don't really understand how points like #5 work on those libertarian types though, they tend to be very loudly anti-government, while still worshiping at the altar of the USA.

          • Des [she/her, they/them]
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            8 months ago

            conservatives now call themselves libertarians to differentiate themselves from the fascists

            the vast majority of secular libertarians became anarchists, socialists, or commies

            purely anecdotal and somewhat vibes based but i was kind of "in the shit" of libertarian community bs pre-2016 and saw this starting to take shape and then trump kicked it off hard

            • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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              8 months ago

              Ah, so their anti-"big government" rhetoric isn't genuine, it's just them mad that they aren't the ones in charge of that big government. I've seen that a lot.

              • Des [she/her, they/them]
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                8 months ago

                basically. their imagined stripped down government is exactly the same as a neoliberal. just everything privatized with them in charge and wokeness destroyed