• cosecantphi [he/him]
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    3 months ago

    lmao this lemmitors comparing Hexbear users to 4channers shit never gets old. When you liberals meet someone far to your left it must really break your brain for you to lump us in with fascists.

    You know what I almost never see referred to as edgy out of hand? People who don't want to fully abolish the US prison system, which to this day kills far more people far more often than the Soviet gulag system did shortly after the end of WW2. And that's really strange considering the US prison system is designed from the ground up to maintain a pool of slave labor by incarcerating racial minorities on bullshit drug offenses. Personally, I'd much rather prison be used to keep dangerous reactionaries from causing trouble while they're being reeducated.

    • @hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      3 months ago

      Look mate I don't live in USA, I have nothing to do with USA. I was commenting on your stupid ass glorification of forced labor camps in soviet shithole

      And you clearly don't seem to have problem with US prison system, only that wrong people are sent there. You're as full of shit as the people you think you're criticizing. You'd rather be yelling at people not loving your dear dictators than actually trying to do anything good for the world.

      • cosecantphi [he/him]
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        3 months ago

        Don't worry, you may not live in the US, but you're definitely an American in spirit.

        And you clearly don't seem to have problem with US prison system, only that wrong people are sent there. You're as full of shit as the people you think you're criticizing

        Soviet Union: Sequesters fascists and counter-revolutionaries for reeducation after Nazi Germany murdered millions of people while invading the USSR with the express purpose of genocide.

        The US: Uses drug prohibition as a bullshit excuse to systematically arrests racial minorities in their millions in order to continue enslavement after the abolition of chattel slavery. The conditions are so brutal that the death rate for modern US prison inmates exceeds that of the Soviet gulag system just a decade into recovering from the devastation wrought by WW2.

        Lemmitor turbolib: Wow, these are morally equivalent. If you replace the words "fascist comprador looking to resume the brutalization of the working class" with the words "black people" then you tankies are starting to look an awful lot like 4channers!

          • FuckyWucky [none/use name]
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            3 months ago

            i think billionaires should be shot, not sent to gulags. gulags are for non-bourgeois liberals.

          • CedarLion [none/use name]
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            3 months ago

            People who have been fucked over by the system often adopt a position to advocate for radical system change? Wooah, very insightful. If you care about people who are negatively affected by modern systems, then that makes their opinion and lived experience more important, not less.

            You even admit that the user may be targeting the right people, so your point is what? That violence is unjustifiable? That strongly believing in a cause leads to disaster? They're not true points, but they'd be much better starting points for constructive discussion, so you can just say whatever you actually mean.

            People making such pretentious, word-salad arguments as yours should not be throwing around the term 'self-righteous asshat'.

          • @Arcturus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            42
            3 months ago

            I have nothing good going on in my life, so I’ve adopted an extreme viewpoint

            Correct. Oppressed peoples tend to support "radical" movements that would improve their lives, and this is a stupid comment for trying to make that sound like a bad thing.

          • Poison_Ivy [comrade/them]
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            3 months ago

            God are you people so fucking stupid, just a bunch of unwarranted self importance and navel gazing nonsense all crammed into a skull cavity the size of a thimble.

          • @robinn_IV
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            3 months ago

            Please note, I've not made any statement on whether you're wrong or right in your targeting. That's a separate discussion.

            LMAO

          • disposable_cracker [he/him, he/him]
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            3 months ago

            Your entire attitude fucking screams "I have nothing good going on in my life, so I've adopted an extreme viewpoint...".

            You mean to tell me that people who are chewed up and shat out by the current order are willing to take drastic measures and radically change the world!??! surprised-pika

          • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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            25
            3 months ago

            Honestly dude if I lost a debate as hard as you did I wouldn't be spouting this psychobabble diarrhea

            "you believe in stuff and that's bad cause I don't believe in anything" is never the place you want to be in a discussion, you basically admitted you have no clue what the fuck you're talking about and because your opponent does that somehow makes them mentally ill???? jesse-wtf

            Seriously get a grip

          • Wakmrow [he/him]
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            25
            3 months ago

            My life situation is great, actually. I still think gulags are appropriate.

          • anarchoilluminati [comrade/them]
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            3 months ago

            So are only people who are "in a good place" in their lives capable of having "extreme" political beliefs? How do you justify who is in a "good place" and who isn't? Do you think it could ever be related to political or economic forces? Or are "extreme" political ideologies all universally forbidden? How do you qualify what is "extreme"? Are people who are not in "a good place" only able to have conservative positions that maintain status quo or are they only able to be apolitical? How do you think maintaining status quo or not having any political beliefs would help their "life situation [improve] enough" if there is no change to their politico-economic reality which directly impacts their life situation? If one is in a "good place" what kinds of political beliefs would they typically exhibit or are they allowed to have?

            Your entire attitude fucking screams "I have no real political analysis but suffer from a great sense of narcissism that leads me to a false sense of intelligence which makes me think I can paternalistically psychologize others' entire lives without knowing them so that I can justify sharing my ignorant opinions that communicate that I believe I have a better life than others do and that makes me a superior person" so that gives me hope you won't be able to help yourself from responding further. Also happy to pay you with Hexbear gold for a similar psychological analysis and thorough breakdown of my political potential if it saves me a trip to the therapist, kind stranger. Thanks.

          • Mindfury [he/him]
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            3 months ago

            Have you considered kinetically prosecuting yourself?

      • @robinn_IV
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        3 months ago

        You'd rather be yelling at people not loving your dear dictators than actually trying to do anything good for the world.

        You were the one who scolded them for being "edgy"; so weird how you immediately switch things up when anyone could simply scroll up and see what really happened. And Stalin, the famous dictator who attempted to resign four separate times and who the CIA admitted was not in total control of the USSR.

      • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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        3 months ago

        Hey I'm not American either and you're still a dumbass that doesn't know what they're talking about. Lmao

        And you clearly don't seem to have problem with US prison system, only that wrong people are sent there.

        No shit? What, you want to send the wrong people to prison? Good one bozo.

        You don't know shit about the Soviets, don't pretend red scare propaganda wasn't a thing.

        I'm sure life in Russia was great under the Tzars and now under capitalist Putin/oligarchs.