https://twitter.com/KenDBerryMD/status/1773696063725006958

  • Gucci_Minh [he/him]
    hexbear
    40
    edit-2
    3 months ago

    So I've run into some of these anti seed oil people before, but is there any basis to what they're saying or is it just pseudoscientific quackery?

    • Tunnelvision [they/them]
      hexbear
      33
      edit-2
      3 months ago

      Most of the fat, which is essential for hormone production, in the human diet for thousand of years came from nuts and seeds. It doesn’t make sense that now all of a sudden these same oils are bad for you. Do people put too much oil in their food in general? Probably, but the seed oil itself isn’t bad. People would be surprised to know they really don’t need to eat that many grams of fat per day.

      • Greenleaf [he/him]
        hexbear
        11
        3 months ago

        I don’t think the concern is the seeds themselves, but rather that in the process of turning them into oil and cooking at high temps it changes the molecular structure in ways that are not good.

        I don’t know, I started looking into all this years ago before it got completely overtaken by chuds. It sucks because now I’m skeptical of any research that comes out about it because the space has become so chuddy. But back in the day I just swapped out cooking with vegetable oil for like, coconut oil and olive oil in some cases, not really a big deal. I don’t think it’s the sort of thing that anyone should panic over or change their diet if they don’t like it. But tbh drastically reducing how much seed oil I ingest was such a small change to my life I was just kinda like sure, ok, whatever.

        • Tunnelvision [they/them]
          hexbear
          9
          edit-2
          3 months ago

          I can see that, but I’m still not convinced it’s the big deal it’s been made out to be. If anything is bad about seed oils I would agree that it’s the cooking process more so than the oil itself. Kinda like how the charred bit when you’re grilling are carcinogenic (even though it’s delicious don’t @ me) or how it was long thought that motor oil is what caused mechanics to get cancer, when in reality it was the burnt up carbon IN the oil that caused the cancer. Burning oil is probably bad no matter what the source is in general, it’s just not good to ingest burnt oil in large quantities. I think the problem with olive and coconut oils is they have a lower smoke point so they in turn burn more easily. Not to scare you or anything obviously it’s just that I think the burning of the oil is what makes it harmful not the source.

    • Posadas [he/him, they/them]
      hexagon
      hexbear
      16
      3 months ago

      https://www.consumerreports.org/health/healthy-eating/do-seed-oils-make-you-sick-a1363483895/

    • BigHaas [he/him]
      hexbear
      16
      3 months ago

      There's a flaw with that kind of question because our scientific understanding of diet is nowhere near complete. Metabolism and the microbiome are crazy complicated. It's better to do experiments like actually cutting out seed oils to see what happens. And the weird thing is that their community has hundreds of posts about curing weird autoimmune diseases or digestion issues https://www.reddit.com/r/StopEatingSeedOils/comments/1bqpel7/so_thankful_for_this_sub/

      Idk, I think it's compelling enough I've been changing my diet. I definitely get much less cravings for things, I actually just ended a 36 hour fast I did simply because I forgot to eat.