All landlords are monsters that profit off of the poor and should be nuked to hell where they belong

  • BakedBeanEnjoyer
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    9 months ago

    Theoretically, am I a landlord if a rent out a room below market value in my current residence?

    It's either that or just let it sit empty apart from the 2 days a year I have a guest over.

        • witx@lemmy.sdf.org
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          9 months ago

          The delivery on your answer is so good. Had a good laugh looking at the picture you're responding to and then reading your comment!

      • neo [he/him]
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        9 months ago

        This child has an Aang color palette

    • Justice@lemmygrad.ml
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      9 months ago

      The simple answer is yes

      The nuanced answer is yes, but this person isn't really the problem. They are still profiting, ultimately, off the labor of another just by owning "capital" (quotes because a personal home isn't really capital, but it's sort of transformed into this specific case... it's weird). However in terms of scale and intent, it's different.

      Scale obviously if you rent one or two rooms that's the limitation of exploitation you can participate in unless you become a full fledged capitalist and buy more homes to rent.

      And intent is obviously a gray area, but looking at it in the least cynical way, the owner in this case might be struggling for whatever reason, electricity rates are high as fuck, inflation generally is up, and they might legitimately need say $400/month more income to just stay in the home. In this case that would be cheap as fuck to most people to then be able to live in a full house with a private room. This intent, in my view, is as ethical as possible for this situation. If the owner is otherwise doing fine and just wants to pocket $400/month, well, that's essentially just being a normal landlord, although still a little different since the home wasn't originally purchased with the sole purpose of profiting from renting it... so there's a lot to analyze there and my end thought is basically "this person isn't worth the time to care about even if their intentions are the worst possible case." Basically because there are much larger fish to fry. That doesn't mean I have to support it, but also hyper-focusing on some dude/family renting one room out is... not a good use of time, imo.

      This still benefits the homeowner of course because they, and they alone, gain equity in the home as they pay off the mortgage more and more. If a tenant lives there for 5 years, $400/month, and moves out, the homeowner has effectively stolen $24000 from the tenant. Obviously some of that went to, perhaps, paint for walls, upkeep from increased wear and tear, but let's be honest it wasn't $24000 worth unless the tenant collapsed the fucking roof. This is why it's exploitation and the only real way around this is some sort of legal agreement that the tenant will receive their full portion of the equity if they move out. Maybe if the owner is elderly putting them in the will would be a way to do it. There's a bunch of scenarios, but if the tenant just lives there, pays, and moves one day, the owner directly benefited from someone's labor, so, still exploitation. Although this comes back to my above answer of "this is so small that it's hardly worth focusing on."

      • SerLava [he/him]
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        9 months ago

        In the revolution, your dad will have to give his second home to the renters but won't be harmed

        • HamManBad [he/him]
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          9 months ago

          Ideally, no one will be killed by the revolution except for two specific circumstances:

          1. You took up arms against the revolution either in battle or as a terrorist against the workers' Republic. Obviously the revolutionary war itself will have the most casualties

          2. You held a position of authority under capitalism and the people impacted by your authority democratically decide that you deserve the death penalty. Oil executives are probably the top of that list, and we should make a spectacle of it

          Anything beyond that is an excess, in my opinion

      • BakedBeanEnjoyer
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        9 months ago

        The nuanced answer is yes, but this person isn't really the problem.

        Thank god, now I can rest easy in my 8 story luxury apartment complex that my grandfather bought me.

        • Justice@lemmygrad.ml
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          9 months ago

          Oh damn it looks like the clerk accidentally filed your plea for mercy under the written confessions section... your execution has been expedited. Oh no...

      • JohnBrownNote [comrade/them, des/pair]
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        9 months ago

        if BakedBeanEnjoyer is charging exactly break even or at a loss for wear and tear on the appliances and carpet and that rent money isn't a net contribution to a mortgage taking depreciation into account then i don't think it would qualify as landlordism. I'd be surprised if that's the case, but one could hope.

    • FanonFan
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      4 months ago

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    • JohnBrownNote [comrade/them, des/pair]
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      9 months ago

      rather than rent, sell them equity in the house, or if you're subletting, team up on the actual landlord and they can have their own place.

      • BakedBeanEnjoyer
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        9 months ago

        At that point why not let them live there for free?

        Selling equity would cost me money as the house values goes up and I'd have to buy it back. Also, they would be able to sell their equity and thus right to live in the house without my approval. Then I could get someone moving in that I've never met or vetted before.

        • JohnBrownNote [comrade/them, des/pair]
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          9 months ago

          if they're paying into your mortgage then you're profiting anything they give you above utilities and wear and tear. you're small potatoes but if you want to do the right thing you can't be building equity or profiting on their rent.