I know this maybe isn't "tactical", but if you were a troop you are irredeemable for your direct role in US Empire and will be going to hell
no "unless" about it. no amount of good deeds can erase the crimes of the past. you cannot "make up" for killing innocent people.
not to say someone in that position can't be useful in some way but they will never reach a point where they've fed enough homeless people to somehow overwrite their atrocities or whatever
Yeah but we as socialists aren't here for the best morals; if a troop wants to jump on a grenade and save ten people that's fantastic and should be celebrated: but my experience tells me that people like that may as well be science fiction.
no, i'm with you. i just disdain the language that gets used when talking about this topic. the idea that there's some cosmic scale you can balance with good deeds is total nonsense and should be treated as such, that's all.
speaking as someone who has done things that haunt me to this day (rightfully so), not as some moral paragon judging from on high
I get your point, but how does someone make up for past actions in your moral system? Sure you can't kill someone but you also can't unsay something mean. I guess you may see it as a scale, and smaller offenses can be wiped clean, but I still wonder what you think is supposed to happen once someone crosses that line but also sees their evil and regrets it. Obviously this is not relevant to the revolutionary efforts, someone is either useful or not.
no "unless" about it. no amount of good deeds can erase the crimes of the past. you cannot "make up" for killing innocent people.
not to say someone in that position can't be useful in some way but they will never reach a point where they've fed enough homeless people to somehow overwrite their atrocities or whatever
Yeah but we as socialists aren't here for the best morals; if a troop wants to jump on a grenade and save ten people that's fantastic and should be celebrated: but my experience tells me that people like that may as well be science fiction.
no, i'm with you. i just disdain the language that gets used when talking about this topic. the idea that there's some cosmic scale you can balance with good deeds is total nonsense and should be treated as such, that's all.
speaking as someone who has done things that haunt me to this day (rightfully so), not as some moral paragon judging from on high
I get your point, but how does someone make up for past actions in your moral system? Sure you can't kill someone but you also can't unsay something mean. I guess you may see it as a scale, and smaller offenses can be wiped clean, but I still wonder what you think is supposed to happen once someone crosses that line but also sees their evil and regrets it. Obviously this is not relevant to the revolutionary efforts, someone is either useful or not.