You know something is truly funny when it becomes funnier every time you read it.
morbid speculation
Apparently they use lethal injection, so I’m wondering if they manage to avoid botching it. In America it’s probably the worst way because it’s always a slapdash cocktail used incorrectly with horrific results.
It really is harder to fuck it up than to do properly. Just get their weight calculate a fatal dose of any of a coupple dozen common available medications and you are set. It is so easy that you get about one case of it a day nationally on average in hospitals where they are trying not to do it. It boggles my mind that we invaded some strange complicated way to duck it up completely when the city pound can do it without issue.
Agreed, literally any fast acting barbiturate would do it with minimal complication.
Reiterating, it’s so fucking dumb America insists on torturing people with experimental amateur bullshit instead of just using literally anything else that quickly indices unconsciousness and death. Hell,dent would be more humane than the stuff we use that a survivor described “as my veins were on fire”
I somewhat assumed (mock me if you want, it’s probably deserved) that it’s hard to make the barbiturate that’s used. Nope, just another case of America being so hollowed out and financialized it chooses not to mix some chemicals and make the one they need.
Some of these are head scratchers,but it is good that environmental crimes are on the list at least.
Working as intended so they can charge the government 10000x it’s worth. Of course only the people who donate a chunk of that money to politicians campaigns will be selected to make and sell it 😎
It's usually a random cocktail because the EU keeps banning the export of 'safe' chemicals to states that have the death penalty. I wonder if Vietnam is not on that export ban list.
Isn't an opioid overdose a horrific, terrifying, slow and painful way to die?
Killing someone isn't a medical procedure. It's the exact opposite. A more painless way to execute is by firing squad but that doesn't give the veneer of humanity, it's just blatantly killing someone.
What? No, you feel better than you've imagined feeling and nod out and then stop breathing. It's faster with more but I guarantee no one ODing on morphine is feeling remotely bad.
Oh, I should also point out there are different kinds of opiates and opioids and your mileage will vary between, but I went with specifically morphine for a reason. Heroin is just morphine with greater bioavailibilty so you can just make that up with quantity as hospitals are wont to do for just normal anesthesia reasons.
You know something is truly funny when it becomes funnier every time you read it.
morbid speculation
Apparently they use lethal injection, so I’m wondering if they manage to avoid botching it. In America it’s probably the worst way because it’s always a slapdash cocktail used incorrectly with horrific results.
I really doubt it's any cleaner there than here. No doctor who doesn't suck ass at their job would ever agree to be involved in an execution
of a person, sure, but this is a billionaire
It really is harder to fuck it up than to do properly. Just get their weight calculate a fatal dose of any of a coupple dozen common available medications and you are set. It is so easy that you get about one case of it a day nationally on average in hospitals where they are trying not to do it. It boggles my mind that we invaded some strange complicated way to duck it up completely when the city pound can do it without issue.
Agreed, literally any fast acting barbiturate would do it with minimal complication.
Reiterating, it’s so fucking dumb America insists on torturing people with experimental amateur bullshit instead of just using literally anything else that quickly indices unconsciousness and death. Hell,dent would be more humane than the stuff we use that a survivor described “as my veins were on fire”
I think the point is exactly that: to make the one being killed suffer... but not in a way watchers can feel bad.
According to Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Vietnam
Thanks for the link!
I somewhat assumed (mock me if you want, it’s probably deserved) that it’s hard to make the barbiturate that’s used. Nope, just another case of America being so hollowed out and financialized it chooses not to mix some chemicals and make the one they need.
Some of these are head scratchers,but it is good that environmental crimes are on the list at least.
Yep pentobarbital is dirt cheap
Dirt cheap and a nationwide shortage. Amazing system
There are 97.5 grams of pentobarbital in this that they use on pets. That’s about $1.35/gram
Meanwhile they are charging the government $1500/gram for the same drug
Genius system we got
Arizona is switching to Zyklon B so they got the shortage under control
Working as intended so they can charge the government 10000x it’s worth. Of course only the people who donate a chunk of that money to politicians campaigns will be selected to make and sell it 😎
They’re also dirt cheap but the only companies authorized to make them charge the government out the wazoo
It's usually a random cocktail because the EU keeps banning the export of 'safe' chemicals to states that have the death penalty. I wonder if Vietnam is not on that export ban list.
I don’t get why they don’t just lie and say it’s for veterinary use tbh. Even vets are having a shortage as a result.
We have this figured out already. Just like...a bunch of morphine. This is a complete fucking no brainer.
Isn't an opioid overdose a horrific, terrifying, slow and painful way to die?
Killing someone isn't a medical procedure. It's the exact opposite. A more painless way to execute is by firing squad but that doesn't give the veneer of humanity, it's just blatantly killing someone.
What? No, you feel better than you've imagined feeling and nod out and then stop breathing. It's faster with more but I guarantee no one ODing on morphine is feeling remotely bad.
Yeah that is classic hospice protocol
Oh, I should also point out there are different kinds of opiates and opioids and your mileage will vary between, but I went with specifically morphine for a reason. Heroin is just morphine with greater bioavailibilty so you can just make that up with quantity as hospitals are wont to do for just normal anesthesia reasons.