Germany to be specific and it's no secret, but it's basically why I'm asking - if I believed everyone here about their opinions of parking enforcement it sounds just the same as what you describe, it's just not true.

That's cool. I really like Germany. People have always been really friendly with me. Again, we're discussing two separate countries, states, and cities with two different systems. We could both be right in how we're describing parking enforcement. I am not trying to convince you about how it is in Germany, I've traveled throughout Germany and have family and friends from Germany but I haven't lived my daily life there as a driver so I wouldn't know. I know how it is in the US and it is fundamentally predatory.

See following paragraph, it plays into this, but I cannot be convinved that "well they suffer mostly because they don't have cars so suffering from other peoples cars is negligible" is a great way to go

I didn't necessarily say it's negligible, it's just outside the scope of what I'm talking about. I'm talking about how predatory parking enforcement is, and that doesn't really involve how people without cars suffer most. The nuances of how some people without cars are helped by parking enforcement is something that I acknowledge to be true at times but it's offset by the typical work of parking enforcement. Whether people without cars are affected more by others with cars or those without cars is a different topic entirely, but from my own experience without cars and those I know without cars the complaint is rarely (but not non-existent) against other drivers but mostly against a shitty city planning system that makes it so difficult to not have a car. And the complaints in Germany might be different and might be toward the drivers themselves because you already have better city planning in many cities. We are still in the first stage of having larger issues with the city planning.

Tickets don't solve the issue of shit being blocked though. I mean that's just arriving at "legal if you have money" again, surely?

I said they should be "ticketed" to extend an olive branch to you if it helps since you like parking enforcement, but I agree ticketing doesn't solve the problem. That's also why I said "or something" because I think another method of handling this needs to be developed but I don't know exactly what nor am I in a position to impose it as policy. So, I'm open to ideas.

So parking enforcement is best understood as ACAB here then?

Here? I don't know, man. I'm just giving you my opinion. I've never discussed parking enforcement here before and I know there are some people that hate car-centric culture and cars so much they hate the drivers themselves so they might end up sympathizing with parking enforcement too. I hate how dependent we are on cars, and the fact that I need a car where I live, but I'm not going to hate working class drivers themselves for the situation they are forced to live in. Because of that, I'll side with working class drivers over some scum parking enforcement. They force many of us to have cars and then always find any excuse to extract, extract, extract more and more. I've been held at gunpoint by police many times and hit by police and stopped unnecessarily by police, but I still hate parking enforcement more because they are such scummy class traitors leeching off the poor when they could just get a job at a grocery store or become a teacher or something, like the rest of us. I have absolutely no sympathy for them. So, for me, parking enforcement is included in ACAB.