I'm probably just ignorant, but aren't these kind of the same thing?

The upshot of both seems to be "modernity is bad, the right way for humans to live is in some vastly simpler system characterized by either sustenance farming, shepherding, and/or hunting & gathering".

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      Most indigenous communities use the industrial machinery and tech they can afford. In Alaska snow mobiles, trucks, and bush planes (and one postal hovercraft) have almost entirely supplanted sled dog teams as a means of getting around. Most of the time snow machines are more reliable, they can go a lot faster, they don't have the problems that come with keeping a team of ten or twenty mutts healthy. But there's downsides, too - Dogs will start up when it's -40 and run just fine, while snow-mobiles might freeze up. Fuel and parts have to be imported and it's expensive. Folks use motor boats for whale hunting, along with guns and explosive harpoons. They've got TVs, medical clinics, a school system that always needs more teachers. There's lots of problems - Everything manufactured outside has to be flown or shipped in and that's expensive. On top of that you need cash to participate in a cash economy and there's not a lot of work that will pull in cash up in the villages. Fresh vegetables and fruit are shockingly expensive. The long winters haven't gotten any less harsh. Lots of kids feel hopeless about their prospects.

      People use a lot of their built up cultural heritage, their cultural technologies, to meet their economic needs. Folks fish, hunt seals, preserve meat using old-school methods. They exploit local plant foods and other resources.

      The Alaska Native Corporations bring in a fair amount of hard currency. Folks fly out to work in other parts of the state or country. There are Alaska native IT companies, tech companies, mineral extraction companies, all kinds of retail ventures, light industry, the whole gamut. People mostly get by.

      Folks are working to preserve traditional knowledge, traditional technology. A dugout or kayak usually isn't as good as a motorboat, until you don't have fuel or spare parts or cash, then it's as good or better than a motorboat. You can make them with materials you can find in Alaska without being dependent on a global supply chain for fuel and parts. And even if you've got a motorboat, that doesn't mean a kayak is bad. Just mean's it's a kayak and you've got a motorboat. And I gotta emphasize - "Alaska Native" encompasses a whole lot of people from a bunch of different cultural and language groups. Aleuts down in the Aleutian chain, Tlingits and Haida in the panhandle, Inupiaq up north, Athabascans more central, and a whole lot of others. They've all got their own languages, art, history, systems of government, everything every other culture has.

      There aren't any primitive technologies, there's just the right technologies for the place you're in and the resources you have available. Doesn't matter how high tech your fusion reactor is, without deuterium it's not as good as a propane lamp. Or a seal fat lamp, for that matter. High-tech cold weather gear made with the latest high-tech technical fabrics is about as good as seal skin anoraks, and a lot of those high-tech materials were made by studying how anoraks exploit the properties of seal skin to wick moisture away from the body and keep the wearer warm without using a lot of restricting insulation material, and continue to work even when they're wet.

      You want to read a fascinating book, pick up "A dangerous idea, the Alaska Native Brotherhood". Indigenous Alaskans from a lot of different communities, starting back in the 20s, started building a legal case and fighting the US Government for enforced legal rights to their own land and it's mineral and other resources. Took 50 years, but they won an unprecedented settlement, the Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act, that gave them a lot of control over the resources of a big chunk of Alaska. It's not perfect, but most things aren't.

      here's a real rough and ready explainer of the ANCSA -

      https://alaskapublic.org/2021/10/14/cheat-sheet-alaska-native-claims-settlement-act-101/

      It's a far cry from Anprim thought, huh?

      • GinAndJuche
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        2 months ago

        I missed this earlier, but thanks for writing out an informative comment. I learned some stuff, thank you.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          rat-salute-2

          If you want to get any of this from people living it there's lots of Alaska Native social scientists and historians. Look up the University of Alaska, the museum's in Anchorage, various historical societies. Folks who actually know this stuff better than my surface level rambling are an E-mail away!