And there's absolutely no problem with that. The issue I'm highlighting is using drugs to paper over problems that are a direct result of shitty working conditions.
if i get injured on the worksite and i'm given drugs & care to recover it is 'papering over' the mistakes & conditions that led to my injury, and getting me back to work faster. but i rather prefer that to having a longer convalescence-->possible unemployment & future medical consequences. don't you? even state-run medical systems can be critiqued for prioritizing getting people back to work over the best interests of the patients, but i don't see how complaining about novel therapies being offered to some privileged workers is a good way to make that point
Again, I'm not arguing against legitimate use cases for drug therapy here. 🤷
What I'm saying is that working conditions need to be improved, and then any psychological problems people have that are not a result of exploitation should absolutely be treated using therapy. I'm not sure how much more clear I can make this.
No, I'm not implying anything of the sort. Nowhere am I arguing against treating health issues, and I've been as explicit as humanly possible regarding that point.
Indeed, I find any time you explain yourself and people keep bringing up the particular phrasing you used while ignoring your clarifications, that's a sure sign that they just want to argue for the sake of it.
Here's the thing, it's fine to misinterpret what somebody else said, but when you keep harping on the original wording once they've repeatedly said that was not the intended meaning, that's not very productive. At that point you're ignoring the intent and are simply arguing for the sake of arguing instead of trying to have any sort of a productive discussion. It's just playing gotcha! See, see, the word you used could be interpreted the way I want to interpret it as opposed to the way you keep saying you meant for it to be interpreted.
drugs help people beyond workplace productivity?
And there's absolutely no problem with that. The issue I'm highlighting is using drugs to paper over problems that are a direct result of shitty working conditions.
if i get injured on the worksite and i'm given drugs & care to recover it is 'papering over' the mistakes & conditions that led to my injury, and getting me back to work faster. but i rather prefer that to having a longer convalescence-->possible unemployment & future medical consequences. don't you? even state-run medical systems can be critiqued for prioritizing getting people back to work over the best interests of the patients, but i don't see how complaining about novel therapies being offered to some privileged workers is a good way to make that point
Again, I'm not arguing against legitimate use cases for drug therapy here. 🤷
What I'm saying is that working conditions need to be improved, and then any psychological problems people have that are not a result of exploitation should absolutely be treated using therapy. I'm not sure how much more clear I can make this.
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No, I'm not implying anything of the sort. Nowhere am I arguing against treating health issues, and I've been as explicit as humanly possible regarding that point.
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That is indeed not what I meant to say there, and I can't help it if people choose to aggressively misinterpret what I was very clearly trying to say.
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When I keep repeating that I'm not against therapy over and over, but people just keep fixating on specific phrasing what else is there to say. 🤷
Some people just enjoy arguing for the sake of arguing.
Indeed, I find any time you explain yourself and people keep bringing up the particular phrasing you used while ignoring your clarifications, that's a sure sign that they just want to argue for the sake of it.
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Here's the thing, it's fine to misinterpret what somebody else said, but when you keep harping on the original wording once they've repeatedly said that was not the intended meaning, that's not very productive. At that point you're ignoring the intent and are simply arguing for the sake of arguing instead of trying to have any sort of a productive discussion. It's just playing gotcha! See, see, the word you used could be interpreted the way I want to interpret it as opposed to the way you keep saying you meant for it to be interpreted.