Firefox is best unless you have 224,538 tabs open. Or so I've heard.
I checked yesterday and my extensions were also taking up 1.3 GB of ram. I think one has a memory leak or some shit but idk which. Firefox just takes forever to launch for me and after a couple days of running it goes to a crawl.
E: thanks everyone for trying to help me btw
E2: I might be an idiot. I think it might have been the amazing 2 GB of cached data I just deleted.
As someone with literally 1.5 thousand open tabs - Firefox is way better than Chrome. Launches in ~10 seconds. Both use insane memory honestly, a few gigs, but that's modern internet for you.
In the revolution, just as every comrade plays a part in the march towards a brighter future, so too do my 1,500 tabs form a robust vanguard of knowledge and productivity.. probably.
I mean hey at least like 20% of them I need and will one day get to.
Hard drive? Firefox loads in under a second on all of my machines, including a nine-year-old desktop and a raspberry pi that’s running off’a SD card. Actually, the pi takes between 1-2 seconds.
So I did check my cached data and it was almost 2 GB. I deleted it and it's running a lot faster now. The reason I never considered that is because I thought that in 2024, deleting browser cache wasn't really needed anymore.
Weird, I’ve never had to do that! Maybe just a weird fuckup on* the program’s side? Stranger things have happened, I suppose!
My partner’s Firefox is firefucked—some sites are just all black, some load super weird, some are unreadable. We know it’s the profile but have been too lazy to fix it… for over a year now. I feel like it’d be easy to fix. New profile, save the bookmarks, done. Yet here we are, using it all fucked up. Netflix and Twitch just crash if we’re not in a private window hahaha.
Dang, that is rough. My dumbass wouldn't have thought to backup my bookmarks but I really hope they are actually saved to my account. I have a lot. Hope y'all get it fixed soon. And lol @ "firefucked"!
I don't know what you mean, I have more tabs than that open and they unload if I haven't opened them in awhile. memory usage doesn't scale with number of tabs. I think your extensions are bugged.
I wish I could see what extension is taking up what ram allocation but FF's task manager just have a listing for "extensions" and that was when I found out that after a long time it goes up to 1.3 GB from like a normal 300 MB. I think at the end of the day I'm gonna just need to play extension roulette and see if I can find which one it might be. But it literally takes 10 minutes to load FF on startup.
extensions can each have a performance impact that adds up, so it can be good to turn off any uncommonly used or redundant ones. like having multiple ad blockers installed doesn't block the ads twice as hard, it just means they each have to run on every page
When I transitioned to Firefox from Chrome, I did so in large part because it at least was better at managing 224,538 open tabs. At the very least at the time, it seems that Chrome held all of the information about the tabs in RAM.
Firefox is the best, but I noticed Edge is more snappy at loading pages. Especially if its a page with a lot of images. But Edge is for libs, so I don't use it.
The conspiratorial side of me wants to believe that websites are coded to perform poorly when a non-Chrome browser is using them, in order to get people to switch to Chrome or Edge or whatever. Like the site detects the User Agent as "Firefox" and lowers its download speed.
websites are coded to perform poorly when a non-Chrome browser is using them
many of them basically are, but not intentionally. a lot of web developers only test in Chrome, and Chrome does some really weird shit (especially with JS and CSS) that means if you target Chrome you’re passively degrading the experience for not-Chrome.
I personally develop my code targeting Firefox or Safari most of the time, since both work a lot closer to spec with JS and CSS than Chrome does.
There's circumstantial evidence that most of google's sites degrade performance intentionally.
And plenty of sites try to stop you with a "only works on chrome" message, but work perfectly fine if you just spoof your browser string to look like you're using chrome.
For me, when I use FF in private mode or troubleshooting mode, it's snappy as fuck so it's all on me lol. I'm running a dark mode extension that does client side rerenderimg on page load which is pretty heavy but like I also have 32GB of ram to use.
After a ton of testing I can't really tell if it's too many tabs or too many extensions. I have a leaky habit of leaving tabs open because what if I need it later? And like right now I'm building a theme for AstroJS so I have like 12 tabs open just for that. I also have like 8 pinned tabs for my most used sites like proton, Gmail, reddit, Hexbear, SoundCloud, etc. I think it's mostly just my bad browsing habits.
I like to be as FOSS as possible so FF isn't going away for me any time soon.
You can go to about:profiles and then relaunch the web browser with all add ons disabled to see if that changes things up for you. Though I imagine browsing the web without uBlock Origin on is its own special hell.
I have wondered if it is my uBO that is making things load so slow. But don't Donna get rid of it because special hell like you said. I use the most popular dark mode extension. And people have reported that that one can slow down but I cant imagine it would slow down this bad.
I just ran it without extensions and it's the same. Only thing I can really think is the amount of tabs. I can go to a private tab, and basically any sites loads instantly.
Firefox is best unless you have 224,538 tabs open. Or so I've heard.
I checked yesterday and my extensions were also taking up 1.3 GB of ram. I think one has a memory leak or some shit but idk which. Firefox just takes forever to launch for me and after a couple days of running it goes to a crawl.
E: thanks everyone for trying to help me btw E2: I might be an idiot. I think it might have been the amazing 2 GB of cached data I just deleted.
As someone with literally 1.5 thousand open tabs - Firefox is way better than Chrome. Launches in ~10 seconds. Both use insane memory honestly, a few gigs, but that's modern internet for you.
We expect better tab hygiene than that in the worker's commune, comrade.
In the revolution, just as every comrade plays a part in the march towards a brighter future, so too do my 1,500 tabs form a robust vanguard of knowledge and productivity.. probably.
I mean hey at least like 20% of them I need and will one day get to.
You can lie to yourself, but you cannot lie to us
It takes like ten minutes for FF to load for me and I really don't know why.
Hard drive? Firefox loads in under a second on all of my machines, including a nine-year-old desktop and a raspberry pi that’s running off’a SD card. Actually, the pi takes between 1-2 seconds.
Just checked and it's installed in /user/bin which is my SSD. But that is just the binary. My SSD isn't exactly new or that fast but still.
Strange! My SSDs on my old machines are old as shit hahaha.
Would reinstalling and creating a new profile help, I wonder?
So I did check my cached data and it was almost 2 GB. I deleted it and it's running a lot faster now. The reason I never considered that is because I thought that in 2024, deleting browser cache wasn't really needed anymore.
Weird, I’ve never had to do that! Maybe just a weird fuckup on* the program’s side? Stranger things have happened, I suppose!
My partner’s Firefox is firefucked—some sites are just all black, some load super weird, some are unreadable. We know it’s the profile but have been too lazy to fix it… for over a year now. I feel like it’d be easy to fix. New profile, save the bookmarks, done. Yet here we are, using it all fucked up. Netflix and Twitch just crash if we’re not in a private window hahaha.
Dang, that is rough. My dumbass wouldn't have thought to backup my bookmarks but I really hope they are actually saved to my account. I have a lot. Hope y'all get it fixed soon. And lol @ "firefucked"!
Your personal Firefox profile is located in your home folder though. Is that on an SSD too?
My binary is on my SSD and I guess my profile is on my 2TB dedicated HDD for my /Home.
I don't know what you mean, I have more tabs than that open and they unload if I haven't opened them in awhile. memory usage doesn't scale with number of tabs. I think your extensions are bugged.
I wish I could see what extension is taking up what ram allocation but FF's task manager just have a listing for "extensions" and that was when I found out that after a long time it goes up to 1.3 GB from like a normal 300 MB. I think at the end of the day I'm gonna just need to play extension roulette and see if I can find which one it might be. But it literally takes 10 minutes to load FF on startup.
extensions can each have a performance impact that adds up, so it can be good to turn off any uncommonly used or redundant ones. like having multiple ad blockers installed doesn't block the ads twice as hard, it just means they each have to run on every page
When I transitioned to Firefox from Chrome, I did so in large part because it at least was better at managing 224,538 open tabs. At the very least at the time, it seems that Chrome held all of the information about the tabs in RAM.
Firefox is the best, but I noticed Edge is more snappy at loading pages. Especially if its a page with a lot of images. But Edge is for libs, so I don't use it.
The conspiratorial side of me wants to believe that websites are coded to perform poorly when a non-Chrome browser is using them, in order to get people to switch to Chrome or Edge or whatever. Like the site detects the User Agent as "Firefox" and lowers its download speed.
many of them basically are, but not intentionally. a lot of web developers only test in Chrome, and Chrome does some really weird shit (especially with JS and CSS) that means if you target Chrome you’re passively degrading the experience for not-Chrome.
I personally develop my code targeting Firefox or Safari most of the time, since both work a lot closer to spec with JS and CSS than Chrome does.
There's circumstantial evidence that most of google's sites degrade performance intentionally.
And plenty of sites try to stop you with a "only works on chrome" message, but work perfectly fine if you just spoof your browser string to look like you're using chrome.
For me, when I use FF in private mode or troubleshooting mode, it's snappy as fuck so it's all on me lol. I'm running a dark mode extension that does client side rerenderimg on page load which is pretty heavy but like I also have 32GB of ram to use.
After a ton of testing I can't really tell if it's too many tabs or too many extensions. I have a leaky habit of leaving tabs open because what if I need it later? And like right now I'm building a theme for AstroJS so I have like 12 tabs open just for that. I also have like 8 pinned tabs for my most used sites like proton, Gmail, reddit, Hexbear, SoundCloud, etc. I think it's mostly just my bad browsing habits.
I like to be as FOSS as possible so FF isn't going away for me any time soon.
You can go to
about:profilesand then relaunch the web browser with all add ons disabled to see if that changes things up for you. Though I imagine browsing the web without uBlock Origin on is its own special hell.I have wondered if it is my uBO that is making things load so slow. But don't Donna get rid of it because special hell like you said. I use the most popular dark mode extension. And people have reported that that one can slow down but I cant imagine it would slow down this bad.
I just ran it without extensions and it's the same. Only thing I can really think is the amount of tabs. I can go to a private tab, and basically any sites loads instantly.
You may not need all those tabs. Create a new profile and roll with it, you can always launch the old profile if you need something from the old tabs.