N.B. misandry is not real because men are not systemically oppressed (uninternalize your reddit MRA today: men suffer some drawbacks under the patriarchy but ultimately still maintain it due to the large amount of privileges they receive under it!)

  • DyingOfDeBordom [none/use name]
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    1 个月前

    "Misandry isn't real because there's no systemic backing" my god will hexbear stop generating dumbass takes

    In before I get called a reactionary and some user pretends I'm some "misandry is JUST AS BAD" moron like the Divorce Guy in the OP just because I think it's fucking stupid to tie in "has a systemic and institutionalized backing" to the definition of a fucking word, like the very concept of misandry is unreal and cannot exist unless you're living in the Feminist Femocracy of Manhatea

    • MiraculousMM [he/him, any]M
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      1 个月前

      I think it's fucking stupid to tie in "has a systemic and institutionalized backing" to the definition of a fucking word

      But that's how oppression is defined in serious, intersectional theory and has been for some time.

      • DyingOfDeBordom [none/use name]
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        1 个月前

        cool story, but "misandry" isn't "the oppression of men"

        literally half this website just making up definitions for shit for the other half to get mad about and going HUH WHY'S THERE 100 COMMENTS every time it happens

        because you don't need a constitution enshrining bigotry for the concept of bigotry to be real (this comes off as very lib parliamentarian rules type shit to me honestly) but I guess you disagree so my comments get removed and I get called a racist reactionary divorce dad or wtf ever

          • DyingOfDeBordom [none/use name]
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            1 个月前

            someone hating men for the fact of their male nature, the literal definition of the word? saying "this can exist" doesn't mean, like half this website seems to take it to mean, that that statement is an endorsement of the idea that it is widespread or "just as bad as [whatever]" or whatever other projections seem to be getting made on me when I get called "a repugnant troll" for saying this

            what am I supposed to have a catalogue of Acts of Misandry for you like it's something i keep track of?

            I'll never understand why some people want to just play pretend that nobody can just be a bigot that hates men without there being some Misandry Pope or cadre of Misandry Police backing them up or what purpose they think is being served by going like "Systemic misandry is misandry and if it's not systemic it cannot exist" like that's actually helpful in some way. yes we're going to defeat institutionalized misogyny by telling people it's impossible to be sexist against men, ever, under any circumstances

            and I'll never understand why it's impossible to talk about this without nerds projecting shit onto me like I'm some mens' rights activist dipshit instead of some nerd who's mad about words, like god forbid someone just be bothered by the fact that they consider it fucking moronic to not distinguish at all between systemic and non systemic forms of bigotry

            if misandry requires institutional backing to exist then literally what do you call it when a person hates men for being men? it's absurd to believe that the number of people worldwide that fall under that is 0, so, what do you call them if not misandrists?

            • Tunnelvision [they/them]
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              1 个月前

              Okay name literally one non systemic form of misandry. I’ll wait. There is a reason people are saying it doesn’t exist.

              • DyingOfDeBordom [none/use name]
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                1 个月前

                or I could just hit the block button, debate nerd

                like literally what are you even on "name one form" like, again, what, I need a catalogue of misandric events to satisfy you, because otherwise you cannot conceive of anyone being a bigot who just hates men? debate nerdmaxxing

                • Tunnelvision [they/them]
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                  1 个月前

                  You are the debate nerd here not me lmfao. The reason I’m asking is because all “misandry” I can think of is not misandry at all it’s patriarchy. Can a woman just hate a man for no reason? Sure but the actual chances of that happening are so small they may as well not exist. Most, and I mean MOST women who dislike men have a multitude of reasons for doing so and even when they do it usually doesn’t apply as a blanket for literally ALL men. Which is why misandry doesn’t really exist. So fuck off debate nerd.

            • Kuori [she/her]
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              1 个月前

              what do you call it when a person hates men for being men?

              sensible

            • Moonworm [any]
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              1 个月前

              I'll never understand why it's impossible to talk about this without nerds projecting shit onto me

              It's a noisome part of the site's culture. There's really stiff orthodoxy about what's good and bad and what that means for how you're allowed to talk about it.