I've seen some good takes on this website before, e.g.

Tiananmen Square massacre is a myth; all we’re remembering are British lies

Massacre? What massacre?

Wikileaks: no bloodshed inside Tiananmen Square, cables claim

Workers World: China’s Tiananmen Square

Tiananmen Square ‘massacre’ was a myth

The myth of Tiananmen

What really happened at Tiananmen?

West hypes false Tiananmen death toll

The original fake news: Tiananmen Square massacre

The defeat of counter-revolution in China

WikiLeaks - LATIN AMERICAN DIPLOMAT EYEWITNESS ACCOUNT OF JUNE 3-4 EVENTS ON TIANANMEN SQUARE (1989)

Richard Roth - There Was No "Tiananmen Square Massacre" (2009)

Yenica Cortes - Tiananmen Square and the threat of counterrevolution (2009)

Tiananmen - the massacre that wasn’t

No, 10,000 were not killed in China’s 1989 Tiananmen Crackdown (anti-Chinese source, but still!)

Deirdre Griswold - Tiananmen Square ‘massacre’ was a myth (2011)

  • Gamer_time [he/him]
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    3 months ago

    A leader of the movement immediately fled China as the protest started, stating that the point of the protest was to incite fatalities to inflame global attention. Doesn't sound like a very non-ngo affiliated person to me. Love 2 deliberately get my supporters killed while i flee in the name of civil rights bougie-wink

      • Gamer_time [he/him]
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        3 months ago

        Chai Ling, here's a link to a comment by @SnAgCu@hexbear.net https://hexbear.net/comment/3715945, detailing a bit about the situation. And lemme get her quote here:

        The students keep asking, “What should we do next? What can we accomplish?” I feel so sad, because how can I tell them that what we are actually hoping for is bloodshed, for the moment when the government has no choice but to brazenly butcher the people. Only when the Square is awash with blood will the people of China open their eyes. Only then will they really be united. But how can I explain any of this to my fellow students?

      • CascadeOfLight [he/him]
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        3 months ago

        One would be Chai Ling

        Even her NATOpedia page has this transcript from an interview with her:

        Chai Ling: All along I've kept it to myself, because being Chinese I felt I shouldn't bad-mouth the Chinese. But I can't help thinking sometimes – and I might as well say it – you, the Chinese, you are not worth my struggle! You are not worth my sacrifice! What we actually are hoping for is bloodshed, the moment when the government is ready to brazenly butcher the people. Only when the Square is awash with blood will the people of China open their eyes. Only then will they really be united. But how can I explain any of this to my fellow students?

        "And what is truly sad is that some students, and famous well-connected people, are working hard to help the government, to prevent it from taking such measures. For the sake of their selfish interests and their private dealings they are trying to cause our movement to disintegrate and get us out of the Square before the government becomes so desperate that it takes action....

        Cunningham: "Are you going to stay in the Square yourself?

        Chai Ling: "No."

        Cunningham: "Why?"

        Chai Ling: "Because my situation is different. My name is on the government's blacklist. I'm not going to be destroyed by this government. I want to live. Anyway, that's how I feel about it. I don't know if people will say I'm selfish. I believe that people have to continue the work I have started. A democracy movement can't succeed with only one person. I hope you don't report what I've just said for the time being, okay?"


        She was smuggled out along with various other protest leaders and dissidents through Operation Yellowbird, a CIA-MI6 joint venture. Again, even the NATOpedia page has to grudgingly admit the CIA had been providing training, funding, even typewriters and fax machines to these people - who it must be kept in mind were a small fraction of the protesters. Though the page does manage to avoid mentioning the NED, which had opened its offices in China for the first time in 1988,