This shit has seriously gone on too long. People who continue to cling to the "10,000 dead crushed by tanks hosed i to the gutter" bs are cranks. It's jews control the banks, chemtrails, the earth is flat, the moon isn't real level of crank shit and unless you're feeling very indulgent and someone is asking in good faith it can be dismissed as equally serious to that kind of crank shit.

  • Skeleton_Erisma [they/them, any]
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    6 months ago

    clueless

    Sorry comrades, I'm absolutely clueless

    Can someone please explain this event to me? I know it's grossly exaggerated and there's some CIA elements to it like operation yellowbird but I can't seem to get over the rut of smuglord fucks enthusiastically using it to shut me down when we have a discussion.

    • sourquincelog [he/him]
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      6 months ago

      To start https://www.cjr.org/behind_the_news/the_myth_of_tiananmen.php

      There was also a Portuguese(?) ambassador who gave a first hand account that pretty much disproves the "accepted narrative" but I'm not looking up sources on my lunch break

      • WashedAnus [he/him]
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        6 months ago

        There was also a Spanish news crew in the square all night. They show some footage of the corpses of some of the PLA soldiers that were tortured to death, and a couple civilian corpses as well, but you can clearly see when the order to disperse was given and the news crew follows the crowd out of the square as they sing The Internationale.

        I'm also on lunch break, so same on finding a source

    • QuietCupcake [any, they/them]
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      6 months ago

      I commented in another part of the thread, but here is a thorough collection of links (that another hexbear put together) about what really happened including direct refutations of the US narrative: https://tiananmensquare.carrd.co/

    • coolusername@lemmy.ml
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      6 months ago

      Actual footage from Tiananmen square as covered by the CPC
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8dqOuHqcBQ
      https://youtu.be/7bl_cyYHwNQ
      Explanation of what happened https://worldaffairs.blog/2019/06/02/tiananmen-square-massacre-facts-fiction-and-propaganda/

      Translation of official government explanation
      https://www.mango-press.com/report-on-stopping-unrest-and-quelling-counter-revolutionary-riots/

      Tankman full vid
      https://youtu.be/GRb4VY2dU4c

      Pretty good explanation https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1797650356727665115.html

      Basically compare everything above with western propaganda and at the least you'll figure out western claims are bullshit.