I don't have time to deep dive into it, anyone with some knowledge can direct me to some links or some names of people who don't have the NATO version of the famine?
I don't have time to deep dive into it, anyone with some knowledge can direct me to some links or some names of people who don't have the NATO version of the famine?
Being skeptical of Western propaganda doesn't mean there's no truth to the claims. Famine is famine. That doesn't mean that the soviets were at fault, necessarily. But it also doesn't mean we shouldn't critically look at leftist policies and learn from any mistakes.
Famine is famine indeed, it isn't about "leftist politics".
Also denouncing Western propaganda is the correct stance because it is, in fact, propaganda.
Who exactly is saying you can't be critical? Self-critisism is a leftist thing.
The original comment was to just not think about it. That isn't being critical. I'm not trying to fight about this I'm trying to learn more. My general stance is probably very well accepted here
Ehh, I am just going to assume all western propaganda is fake. No point in really trying to enguage with it and just assuming it is all made up is close enough to accurate for any reasonable purpose. It isn't good to let liberals force the conversations round the failures of communism. It really isn't done in good faith and we shouldn't give them that. There are really only a handful of facts that are important to know about this anyway.
That's my general stance as well.