Lib on the reason why the assassination wouldn't work (fear, martyr, blah blah blah), but there's a not-bad point buried somewhere in there.
It avoids great man of history-ing Hitler, since killing him wouldn't change the material conditions of Germany that lead to Hitler. The Holocaust is probably the worst-case scenario for what could happen (idk if Hitler 2 does the super Holocaust), and idk enough about intra-party politics of the Nazis other than the purges they did.
Maybe the second in command of the party wouldn't be as effective of a leader and fizzle the nazi party out and we instead get the moderate nazi party, and who knows how that would end up. Communism was spreading at that time, and fascism was going to pop-up regardless in response to this, but the exact shape of what happens would be slightly different and maybe the genocide wouldn't be as bad.
Also why imply someone with a time machine couldn't make it look like an accident. They could just drop a piano or anvil on his head and everyone would see it as a common hazard and think nothing of it.
It avoids great man of history-ing Hitler, since killing him wouldn't change the material conditions of Germany that lead to Hitler.
Unfortunately if you read the thread that is not at all the point they are making.
They pulled a strawman argument on me suggesting that electoralism is useless and jumped straight to saying I was advocating assassinating my political opponents which is something I totally definitely would not do
THEN they went on entirely unprompted to condemn the hypothetical assassination of LITERALLY HITLER.
Now that I read that thread I get what you're saying. I thought they were making the point that you don't know how things would go down if you did succeed in killing Hitler, it might do nothing, is fair.
But the counter to that just being , when we know that less than nothing would've changed was funny. They clearly just worked backwards from saying "assassinating politician is bad" and then couldn't admit they were wrong when it came to Hitler.
They simplified killing Hitler to the trolley problem and decided to definitely not ever pull the lever, and instead just hope the lever pulls itself.
Lib on the reason why the assassination wouldn't work (fear, martyr, blah blah blah), but there's a not-bad point buried somewhere in there.
It avoids great man of history-ing Hitler, since killing him wouldn't change the material conditions of Germany that lead to Hitler. The Holocaust is probably the worst-case scenario for what could happen (idk if Hitler 2 does the super Holocaust), and idk enough about intra-party politics of the Nazis other than the purges they did.
Maybe the second in command of the party wouldn't be as effective of a leader and fizzle the nazi party out and we instead get the moderate nazi party, and who knows how that would end up. Communism was spreading at that time, and fascism was going to pop-up regardless in response to this, but the exact shape of what happens would be slightly different and maybe the genocide wouldn't be as bad.
Also why imply someone with a time machine couldn't make it look like an accident. They could just drop a piano or anvil on his head and everyone would see it as a common hazard and think nothing of it.
Unfortunately if you read the thread that is not at all the point they are making.
They pulled a strawman argument on me suggesting that electoralism is useless and jumped straight to saying I was advocating assassinating my political opponents which is something I totally definitely would not do
THEN they went on entirely unprompted to condemn the hypothetical assassination of LITERALLY HITLER.
Basically the final boss of civility fetishism.
Now that I read that thread I get what you're saying. I thought they were making the point that you don't know how things would go down if you did succeed in killing Hitler, it might do nothing, is fair.
But the counter to that just being
, when we know that less than nothing would've changed was funny. They clearly just worked backwards from saying "assassinating politician is bad" and then couldn't admit they were wrong when it came to Hitler.
They simplified killing Hitler to the trolley problem and decided to definitely not ever pull the lever, and instead just hope the lever pulls itself.
Yeah the actual solution would be killing Hitler and then every single one of his predecessors.