Of course, there will be many interpretations, but what are the defining Marxist ideas on the definition?

I ask, because you see a lot of libs and liblefts calling America fascist, but then being asked how, and not being able to respond. It makes them (and us, because we always get lumped in with them) look bad. I'd like to be able to step in if I ever witness such a thing.

  • plinky [he/him]
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    3 days ago

    mischanneling/freezing class conflict by blaming bourgeoisie crimes on minorities/foreign enemies/local discontents. Popular base of petit bourgeoisie/lumpenproles/army/labor aristocracy (passively) with forward looking golden age mythos and need to get some of that empire.

    america is not fascist imho, it got its fascist things out of the way 200 years ago, its just empire

    • TheWurstman [he/him]
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      3 days ago

      america is not fascist imho, it got its fascist things out of the way 200 years ago, its just empire

      its definitely run by some dumb oligarchs who will work with fascists. Is it fascist yes yes yes yes yes

      like maybe the United States of America its self isn't fascist but it sure does spread it......

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 days ago

        I think we're at a point in history where defining movements as fascist isn't really important. Whatever we've got is some kind of post-fascist evolution, bu, iudk, trying to define whether the US is fascist or not seems less important than convincing people that America is the baddies, whatever you name it's political and economic system.

      • plinky [he/him]
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        3 days ago

        it will spread whatever works for oligarchs. Monarchies, theocracies, dictatorships. The only thing which doesn't work for oligarchs is nationalization of local resources shrug-outta-hecks

        • TheWurstman [he/him]
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          2 days ago

          Yeah shit whatever it is. Just the same old shit. Be pedantic if you want about calling it fascist or not an-eco-heart

          • plinky [he/him]
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            2 days ago

            i feel we need some precision in words, but at the same time i recognize its kinda lost battle. the thing is fascism is forward looking (yes, by channelling the past, but still to the future). All america does is circlejerk itself about the 50s-60s, there is no bridge to the future from there

            • TheWurstman [he/him]
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              2 days ago

              Well that’s the “future” they want I’m sorry it might even be worse if you ask me but I kinda don’t give a shit. I’ve been awake for to long to argue about it.