I was sure it was going to be professional genocide ghoul Shapiro. Color me surprised.

  • Wertheimer [any]
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    1 month ago

    True. Would like to see a comparison between the worst abuses of the National Guard in Minnesota and Trump's Bible photo-op.

    • Chronicon [they/them]
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      1 month ago

      seeing as the deployment was way more widespread it's bound to be way worse. they did a lot of sketchy shit in MN, maybe portland's feds black bagging people would be the better comparison

      • Wertheimer [any]
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        1 month ago

        This is the main one I remember from Minnesota

        Police officers and National Guard forces in Minneapolis shot paintballs at residents standing outside on their porch, as a curfew was enforced throughout the city.

        A video posted on Twitter on Saturday night appears to show the Minnesota National Guard and state police ordering the residents of one street to go inside, before they turn their weapons on a group of residents.

        The footage captures people rushing inside the property after shots are fired and shows where one member of the public has been hit by a paintball.

        Armed officers can be heard shouting “light ‘em up” before the shots start.

        • Chronicon [they/them]
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          1 month ago

          that one got lots of attention because it was totally unprovoked and aimed at bystanders in their own home, but was far from the worst they also shot live rounds at a car out past curfew, along with tons of less lethals, and linda tirado is currently dying from health struggles initiated by her losing an eye to a baton round (iirc)

          a pawn shop owner shot someone too. maybe multiple people?

          They also arrested a CNN crew live on air, that was wild but obv way down the totem pole from maiming and killing.

          • Wertheimer [any]
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            1 month ago

            Anoka County deputies fired less-lethal munitions at the car before the National Guard member fired live rounds from his M4 carbine rifle.

            “You told me to shoot! He told me to shoot. He said, ‘Shoot!’” the unidentified guard member said.

            “It was less lethal, dude,” an Anoka County deputy responded.

            Death to America

            • Chronicon [they/them]
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              1 month ago

              Show

              if this is what they were doing to journalists you can imagine how well they treated people that didn't have camera crews and press passes

              death to america indeed

              • Chronicon [they/them]
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                1 month ago

                yep the guard had live weapons. it's a miracle it wasn't another kent state or worse

                I also memory-holed this one, or maybe never heard about it:

                Show

                pigs were just riding around in unmarked vans popping people in the face with less lethals with no warning

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        1 month ago

        Afaik people were very cowed during the national guard occupation. At that point everyone was waiting to see if Chauvin would walk. Walz sent in the military pre-emptively and people were scared enough by all the soldiers to mostly stay home. And then Chauvin was convicted so we didn't get massive street actions.

        • Chronicon [they/them]
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          1 month ago

          I mean, people were pretty cowed by the natl guard coming in with live ammo, yeah: they didn't want to get shot. In part they were given a bit more respect since they weren't literally the same department people were there protesting (plus a lot of people have a military fetish and didn't see them as the glorified cops they are).

          But I think you're conflating two different time periods, chauvin's trial/verdict was like a full year later. The national guard deployed a full day before Chauvin was even arrested or charged, though they amassed much larger numbers/presence in the following days.

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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            1 month ago

            But I think you're conflating two different time periods

            My memory of about three years around 2020 is totally fucked by trauma. I had thought there was a massive national guard deployment when the Chauvin verdict was to be read. Did that happen?

            • Chronicon [they/them]
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              1 month ago

              oh yeah there was actually, I kinda forgot about that since they weren't, you know, shooting at people (that I heard about anyhow). I was talking about the first time around but they actually spent like twice as much money on it the second time in 2021, just to have them lingering around random businesses, precincts, etc.