I was sure it was going to be professional genocide ghoul Shapiro. Color me surprised.
Thank fucking god honestly. Shapiro pick would have been a nightmare regardless of your thoughts on voting. An arch-zionist who volunteered for the IOF one assassination away from the presidency.
Also literally helped cover up a Murder and had sexual harassment allegations in his office. I wouldn't be surprised if that played more of a role than the zionism.
Yeah that's exactly why I was sure they would pick him. Astonishing to see the Dems not go with the worst, dumbest option available to try to appeal to the worst people in the country.
It's so funny that they are going to handily beat trump by simply not making the exact worst decision possible at every turn (like second or third worst maybe idk).
Such a contrast from picking Clinton and Biden twice.
He's an astonishingly bad and unpopular candidate, and losing to him once (plus almost losing again) required Mission Impossible levels of threading the bad planning and performance needles. It would be super funny if they just blew him out of the water by making a few choices that weren't the worst available options and calling him weird a few times.
It'll be super funny if the election map ends up looking like Reagan's, except blue.
Especially if it’s the same congressionally and they have to innovate new ways of obstructing their totally progressive goals.
I'm trying to imagine Clinton's reaction of this happened and it's absolutely hilarious. Just makes my day lol.
Yeah, Walz is far from a lefty candidate, but given the track record of the dems, I thought when it came down to him and Shapiro, they would make the same bad choice they've made basically my entire life. Not a victory by any stretch, but at least not the worst option for a change.
Look it's probably the best outcome possible for the Dems.
As communists the result of this election simply alters the nature of the fight, not the difficulty, but this makes all our enemies mad and may wrest some small concessions so it's fun. Let's just enjoy the moment.
I'm celebrating that Shapiro did not get the nod. That's a win in my book.
I'd rather struggle against ruling class representatives who are willing to negotiate to some extent, instead of ones who want to throw us all out of helicopters. I haven't been this close to engaging in (national) electoral politics since Bernie. Which means the controlled opposition is doing its job very well, kudos
Hmm, they're actually trying to win and it seems like Trump is kinda floundering currently. 3 months left but it's looking up for Kamala.
Trump's campaign has the same vibe currently as an AI-generated crypto meme. Not sure how else to describe it.
They call him Adding Ross because his demo has yet to reach the multiplication and division section of their math course.
I think this might actually be good news. Not because Waltz is better than Shapiro electorally (although he is, by a lot) because I'm not exactly super invested in Kamala winning, but I have a glimmer of hope this might be a positive signal for the direction of her foreign policy. Netanyahu is trying to start a regional war and to lock any future US administration into that war. Picking the turbo-Zionist Shapiro would have been an unmistakable signal that a future Harris administration would follow Netanyahu into that war. Snubbing him for a more moderate/progressive pick potentially signals a willingness to break from Israeli positions.
And again, not that I'm rooting super hard for Kamala, but it is notable to see democrats not picking the option that divides their base and puts them on the defensive when everything was going their way. Shapiro has multiple glaring liabilities- comparing anti-genocide protesters to the KKK, supporting Charter schools, possibly covering up the murder of his major donor's fiance- and if they picked him, they would have had to scold their voters into shutting up while Republicans gleefully pounced on him. I'm so used to democrats shooting themselves in the foot and going into scold-mode that it's actually sort of noteworthy when they don't.
Yeah, I agree entirely. It is at least a sign that she may have a real threshold when it comes to support for Israel, which is probably about the best we can hope for from the Democrats. Picking Shapiro would have been a signal that she is all in on the genocide, so it's at least worth celebrating that she went another way. I don't really expect this to turn into meaningful support for Palestine, but it does at least represent a step back from total bloodthirsty support of Israel, which is what we've gotten with Biden (and which is increasingly unpopular with the Democratic voters). As you said, maybe it at least means she wouldn't fall in line with Israel attempting to subjugate an entire region of the planet.
If she picked Shapiro, I would have interpreted it as a genuine middle finger to myself and everyone else who was opposed to genocide.
This pic, is more like patting what's on the head and telling us that she hears and sees us. While she continues the genocide.
So like, it's better than the alternative, but I'm still waiting for her to do something.
Neither am I.
It's really sad. The PSL isn't on my ballot.
I'm going to go vote. But it looks like I'm going to have to leave the top of the ticket blank.
Same boat here, comrade. One of the few states where they're not even doing an official write-in campaign.
I don't blame them for focusing their efforts, but it does suck.
the right might attack the Harris campaign from a pro-zion position and it'll create a bit of an interesting situation, we'll see what they do with that. It gives them an escape hatch, where the Dems can turn on netanyahu and lump him with the right wing
There's not really any precedent for the Dems to actually make that big of a positive turn. Why would they turn around on Israel? The support of Israel as an imperialist project is especially critical with the advent of BRICS and multipolarity. It would drastically accelerate the imperial decline if they stopped paying their mercenaries.
I don't think they will either, I just think it'll be interesting when the right does that attack. It'll mess up their vibes based campaign fairly hard, so they'll likely ignore it entirely and try to coast on the current good feelings.
I was hypothesizing like the way to do it and save face, not saying they'll actually stop supporting Israel lol. With Biden there wasn't even a way to imagine that, with this I can see the ability is there, which will make the Dems at large even more culpable when they dont
Objectively the best that can happen for the dems is Trump wins. They resurge in the typical midterm comeback, render Trump a lame duck for two years and have an open shot in 2028 for Obama 2.0, which they would fuck up anyways. Which is why I say we really wont have another real shot until 2036/2040 when boomercide is at it's peak, but then they will thrust us into WW3 to deny us yet again a peace dividend.
God I want out so bad.
deep condolences to comrade @Frank@hexbear.net who has lived under the the Walz regime
Whoever said Kamala is doing a Keir Starmer speedrun I think hit the nail on the head
I welcome Tim Walz, it's a sensible choice, a moderate approach, but I implore the Democrats to go further. Walz should invite JD Vance to drink from the puddle to prove which one of them is the least gay
Love me a super-progressive ticket where both candidates are in bed with gig economy ghouls and enjoy siccing the police state on people. Can't wait to hear how excited my
friends are!(This was the lesser of four evils, or however many people she had on her shortlist, and it's still a guy who teargassed his largest city. The Democrats, folks!)
a guy who teargassed his largest city
did a lot more than tear gas tbh
True. Would like to see a comparison between the worst abuses of the National Guard in Minnesota and Trump's Bible photo-op.
seeing as the deployment was way more widespread it's bound to be way worse. they did a lot of sketchy shit in MN, maybe portland's feds black bagging people would be the better comparison
This is the main one I remember from Minnesota
Police officers and National Guard forces in Minneapolis shot paintballs at residents standing outside on their porch, as a curfew was enforced throughout the city.
A video posted on Twitter on Saturday night appears to show the Minnesota National Guard and state police ordering the residents of one street to go inside, before they turn their weapons on a group of residents.
The footage captures people rushing inside the property after shots are fired and shows where one member of the public has been hit by a paintball.
Armed officers can be heard shouting “light ‘em up” before the shots start.
that one got lots of attention because it was totally unprovoked and aimed at bystanders in their own home, but was far from the worst they also shot live rounds at a car out past curfew, along with tons of less lethals, and linda tirado is currently dying from health struggles initiated by her losing an eye to a baton round (iirc)
a pawn shop owner shot someone too. maybe multiple people?
They also arrested a CNN crew live on air, that was wild but obv way down the totem pole from maiming and killing.
Anoka County deputies fired less-lethal munitions at the car before the National Guard member fired live rounds from his M4 carbine rifle.
“You told me to shoot! He told me to shoot. He said, ‘Shoot!’” the unidentified guard member said.
“It was less lethal, dude,” an Anoka County deputy responded.
Death to America
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if this is what they were doing to journalists you can imagine how well they treated people that didn't have camera crews and press passes
death to america indeed
yep the guard had live weapons. it's a miracle it wasn't another kent state or worse
I also memory-holed this one, or maybe never heard about it:
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pigs were just riding around in unmarked vans popping people in the face with less lethals with no warning
Afaik people were very cowed during the national guard occupation. At that point everyone was waiting to see if Chauvin would walk. Walz sent in the military pre-emptively and people were scared enough by all the soldiers to mostly stay home. And then Chauvin was convicted so we didn't get massive street actions.
I mean, people were pretty cowed by the natl guard coming in with live ammo, yeah: they didn't want to get shot. In part they were given a bit more respect since they weren't literally the same department people were there protesting (plus a lot of people have a military fetish and didn't see them as the glorified cops they are).
But I think you're conflating two different time periods, chauvin's trial/verdict was like a full year later. The national guard deployed a full day before Chauvin was even arrested or charged, though they amassed much larger numbers/presence in the following days.
But I think you're conflating two different time periods
My memory of about three years around 2020 is totally fucked by trauma. I had thought there was a massive national guard deployment when the Chauvin verdict was to be read. Did that happen?
oh yeah there was actually, I kinda forgot about that since they weren't, you know, shooting at people (that I heard about anyhow). I was talking about the first time around but they actually spent like twice as much money on it the second time in 2021, just to have them lingering around random businesses, precincts, etc.
I'm still kind of surprised they didn't go with Liz Cheney or something. Didn't Matty Y float Mitt Romney? That's the level of decision making I've come to expect from the Democrats.
Matty is a fringe idiot even by dem standards. Has he ever said anything reasonable?
I thought it was Sorkin that suggested Romney. Could be both freaks
Aww c'mon Aaron, quit Sorkin my Walz while I'm tryin' to Romney, ya know I gotta campaign tomorra
Sorkin actually wanted Romney to be the dems presidential nominee lmao
I swear that amalgamation-of-all-Democratic-Senators image is like 95% Tim Johnson (former D-SD), so it tracks
This is stupid and unrelated, but the idea of a bland midwestern guy named Timmy Khrushchev is cracking me up now
The mandatory Midwestern diet of exclusively honey ham and corn is not conducive to aging gracefully.
They should replace the Illuminati pyramid on dollar bills with this
If you store the cream cheese within viewing distance of salt and pepper, it basically counts as guacamole.
Fun fact: "ketchup" is the Midwestern word for "salsa"
Frog eye salad is a sweet and creamy fluffy style salad that features mandarin oranges and pineapple. The pastel marshmallows make it extra fun. It is perfect for Easter or any time! If you are a fan of Midwestern fluff salads, you are in the right place.
holy shit I've actually had this before as a kid at some after-service church thing lmfao core memory unlocked
Yeah, I can tell you from experience that's not conducive to aging gracefully either.
A somewhat progressive governor (who has photos with zionazis) is getting neutered andnthey are trying to dupe "the left" into voting for
https://jewishinsider.com/2024/08/minnesota-gov-tim-walz-veepstakes-bid-progressive-kamala-harris/
Walz also spoke at AIPAC’s 2010 conference, underscoring the importance of the U.S.-Israel alliance to the pro-Israel group. “Israel is our truest and closest ally in the region, with a commitment to values of personal freedoms and liberties, surrounded by a pretty tough neighborhood,” he said in his address that year.
HOW'S GENOCIDE GOVERNOR?! IS GENOCIDE AND APARTHIED YOUR PERSONAL FREEDOMS AND LIBERTIES?EDIT /r/TheDeprogram is white knighting this guy. He's a DEMOCRAT EVERYONE. Moderate wing of fascism yadda yadda... get over him yesterday.
Ok maybe not totally, but stay woke
y'allAs an aside, I saw video of him speaking for the first at the campaign event in Pennsylvania, and he has Nixon face/jowls and a thick Minnesota accent, which made me sad imagining the alternate timeline where the Dem and GOP VP candidates are Jesse Ventura and Mike Pillow respectively
This is one of most popular posts on Bluesky.
with a wine mom and a public school dad on the ticket you can really think of this year's democratic ballot as the ultimate triumph of resistance libs
https://subium.com/profile/jbouie.bsky.social/post/3kz2jirwarc2a
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It's only ~1 hour old and it has 2.8k likes which is quite a lot for that site. I bet the post will surely become the most popular in a 24 hour period.
One of the better picks, far better than Shapiro.
I honestly thought there was a pretty good chance it was going to be Mark Kelly.
The bit is intentionally confusing him with convicted murderer and secret space program conspiracy theorist Mark Richards, who is currently serving a life sentence.
Well, he apparently flew combat missions in the Gulf War, so yeah
yeah and did nothing about enbridge creating a piggy slush fund and directly paying the cops to brutalize protesters about it.
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God watching 2016 round 2 is gunna be devastating for the libs in here..
The outcome should be extremely funny either way. Either they beat Trump handily and both Trump and Hillary Clinton immediately explode, or 2016 2 happens and libs immediately explode. Looking at lots of the world's worst people being super mad no matter what happens.
It's the libs this time and they just go "how dare you sir" when they get to the capitol hill and a cop curb stomps a kid that was there by accident.
Agreed trump losing to kopmala has the higher funny potential at this point
Yeah it will be shocking because there is no possible surprise left. Trump was an outsider, he campaigned on so many different stances that are completely different from how his own base see him now. Who exactly is embarrassed to say they're voting for Trump now for example? Look at that RNC cult shit with them all wearing the ear bandage or whatever. Absolutely pathetic but also a glimpse of how completely proud they are.
Also Hillary was definitely far more like Biden's path, even he could have had a better chance if he wasn't such a deranged out of touch nazi and zionist. Fucking talking about Bidenomics and NATO while people can't afford rent lol.
If the new team is even remotely more competent, which seems like it, its realy hard to imagine this being like 2016 at all.
Also while all this happens Trump fumbled with the Vance shit already. He can't even be as competent as he was in 2016 anyway.
Kelly made more sense imo. He could totally take the wind out of the Republicans' sails on the attempted Trump assassination because he's married to Gabby Giffords and she got way worse than a free industrial ear piercing, and they could go on the attack on gun control and make it personal. (I know the Dems would never go on the attack other than "sir have you no decency" and "he did document stuff wrong" but still)
I think most people have forgotten about the assassination thing already tbh
It's wild how fast that dropped out of the news and public discourse. Nobody seems to give a shit that he came within millimeters of having his head blown off on live TV, which is super funny.
He didn’t even get the normal “Survived an assassination attempt” boost in popularity, he almost got shot and half the country went “wish he died” lmfao
The biggest consequence was Tenacious D breaking up because Jack Black was stumping for the Biden campaign and Kyle Gass joked about not missing the next time. And then Biden dropped out like a week later.
I feel like he would be a good pick in another year but at this stage of the game Walz’s clipability and charisma (the “weird” things) are probably a better choice.
Plus, all those Midwestern states that used to be called "the blue firewall" are up in the air these days. If he can help secure Minnesota, Michigan, and Wisconsin for Kamala, that's a big edge for them.
True, but I think Biden or Harris already lost Michigan 11 months ago
Quite possibly. Shapiro would have been a giant "fuck all of you" that sealed the deal, though.
I'm still injecting straight copium, and hoping that she decides to reverse course on the whole genocide thing.
Unions didn't like him, plus the dems would need to try to win his senate seat in a special election.
They only had one dem they could reasonably contest Sinema’s open seat with. They wouldn’t be able to keep the other Senate seat as well.
for sure though
