• TheDeed [he/him, comrade/them]
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    1 month ago

    Zionists settling and colonizing Israel of course is pretty recent, but huge chunk of the haredi there were born there at this point as I mentioned in another comment. We're talking about the kids and grandkids of settlers for the most part. Most of the people going to Israel these days though are reform/conservative Jews.

    I'm from the USA. There's plenty of white people here descended from settlers that I wouldn't call settlers themselves, although settler culture is a still pervasive through the legacy of white supremacy. But yeah, it'd be disingenuous if I said oh every white person in the PSL believes in manifest destiny or something. For lack of a better analogy.

    What I mean to say by all this is I only commented because it was an overgeneralization, anti-zionism is a defining characteristic of haredi Jews so it was just a little jarring to read. Certainly they aren't anti-zionists for the same reasons as you or I, but still

    • Dolores [love/loves]
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      1 month ago

      For lack of a better analogy

      i actually think that is a pretty good analogy, embracing a genocidal ideology of manifest destiny/zionism is different from simply being in a settler state but articulating it takes more specificity.